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First time employing a nanny - please help

15 replies

livinginhope87 · 21/09/2014 21:21

Hello,

I have just been offered a 3 day a week job and I will need childcare for my two children. I think a nanny would be the best option but I am totally new to the process. I would be so grateful for any help in paying the nanny, advertising the for position and practical tips.

Thank you.

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hollie84 · 21/09/2014 21:23

What's your budget?

PenguinsIsSleepDeprived · 21/09/2014 21:26

Paying - you need to speak to one of the nanny payroll agencies. Get a proper written contract. Agree a gross salary (not net) and they will do your payroll for you. Remember to factor employer NI into your budget. Smile

SarcyMare · 21/09/2014 21:30

Use a nanny payroll company is the most important thing.

Before the nanny starts decide what you want her to do, which are your highest priorities, as the chances of getting someone who ticks every box is slim :)

I love having one it is soo much better than using a childminder, and ignore all the jealous twats who say "why did you have children if..." When you ask a question about something the nanny didn't do.

Karoleann · 21/09/2014 21:37

Go onto nannyjob.co.uk and look at salaries in your area.

Also look at adverts and decide what you want in a nanny

I've never used a nanny payroll, but use a payroll site and do it myself.

One thing I would always recommend is only putting SSP in a nannies contract. You can always pay over that if you want, but you don't want to be paying sick pay to someone who has a regular Monday off for a hangover, or can't come in as they have a sniffle.

PassTheCremeEggs · 21/09/2014 21:44

I don't have any advice but am in a similar position so hoping for some good tips!

nannynick · 21/09/2014 22:16

Do have a look through other posts on this board about employing a nanny.
A recent reply I wrote which has some things to think about in terms of costs is on London Nanny Costs thread.

I will need childcare for my two children. I think a nanny would be the best option

Why do you feel it would be the best option? Are you needing an early start time, a late finish time? Do your children have many activities they need to go to, will that change over time? How old are your children, will things change once oldest goes to school?

A nanny may be a good solution but it may be hard to find. Your location could make a big difference to things, such as salary (as it does vary from city to rural locations) and how you go about recruiting someone. You may need to consider how close you are to public transport, you may need to consider how far someone travels to you - where would they live to be able to get to you easily?

I would be so grateful for any help in paying the nanny

As others have said, agree a gross salary. Do your budget, make sure you calculate annual cost - "a nanny is not just for when they work but for all year round". Calculate minimum holiday entitlement and work out what holiday entitlement you would offer - do you need to calculate in hours or days? Hours is often best, especially if working hours each day vary. Minimum entitlement is 5.6 x working hours per week. So for a 3 days nanny, they may be working 30 hours a week, so 5.6 x 30 = 168 hours.

Payroll agencies are worth using, especially for the first year. Leaves you to concentrate on making the arrangement work, without needing to worry too much about the paperwork (online reporting) for HMRC. You can do it yourself via HMRC Online, bit of a learning curve but relatively easy once you understand how PAYE works.

SarcyMare · 21/09/2014 22:19

Our nanny is just coming back from maternity leave, the payroll agency were very usefull then

Greenfizzywater · 21/09/2014 23:27

I used childcare.co.uk last year and it was awful, got loads of spam emails and gave up and used an agency. Now recruiting again and it is much better - they have put a limit on how many messages you can send per day so much less spam, but if you need more they will review the messages you have sent and increase your limit.

You can filter what you are looking for by full/part time, live in/out, driver, own car, smoker etc etc.

I've interviewed two people from there today and would be happy to employ either of them, just trying to make a decision!

All that is said above is sensible and I would recommend payefornannies to do your payroll.

livinginhope87 · 22/09/2014 08:33

Wow, thank you for the replies. I really want to get it right and be a good employer and find a good fit. Does anyone have any other ideas on where to advertise? I have added an advert on childcare.co.uk.

HOLLIE84 - I am open to salary negotiations for the right person so between £9.50-£13 per hour gross.

NANNYNICK - Thank you for the tips and link. I am very green to this. I live close to a station and bus stops so hopefully that will help. I need someone for two 'school hours' days and one normal full day so that is why a nanny feels like a good fit.

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Dinosaursdontgrowontrees · 23/09/2014 09:33

Where do you live op?

livinginhope87 · 23/09/2014 12:27

Dinosaursdontgrowontrees - Tunbridge Wells

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Greenfizzywater · 23/09/2014 13:13

I need someone for two 'school hours' days and one normal full day

you might have to pay 3 full days, very few nannies want to work before and after school but have a load of unpaid time in the middle of the day which is difficult to fill. you can sometimes negotiate doing housework/ironing etc in that time. What if your kids are ill and off school, would you need the nanny then? And what about school holidays?

livinginhope87 · 24/09/2014 13:15

Greenfizzywater - it is actually the other way. I work school hours so need someone to care for the baby when my daughter will be at school.Ii will do the school pick up and drop off. Happy to pay for the full day if needed.

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Greenfizzywater · 24/09/2014 20:13

Ah, I misunderstood. That'll probably be easier to recruit for.

eastmidswarwicknightnanny · 25/09/2014 12:55

If £13 gross is max you can afford I would advertise as £9.50-£11.50 gross as you want to leave yourself room for a pay rise at some point although not essential.

Tunbridge wells isn't quite London rates and its an employers market.

Maybe consider a nanny with own child as could work well for you and would pay towards lower end of your scale.

Ask at the school gates if anyone knows anyone, advertise in local church. When we looking for temporary before/after school care I actually found a teacher with a 1yr old who sometimes needed to bring him to work when husband was working which was fine for us we were paying £8 gross/hr but am Midlands. She went to our local church met through messy church session.

Guess what I am saying is that someone may know someone who has childcare experience been off on maternity leave doesn't want to go back to old job/leave child/isn't cost effective for them but would love to nanny with own child.

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