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How difficult is it to register with Ofsted

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springlenner · 04/09/2014 23:50

We have a new nanny/CM who is taking care of our 2 DSs after school approx 10 hours a week. She's lovely and I'm hopeful that it will work out well.
She hasn't worked in a childminding role ( professionally) for a number if years - SAHM to her own children who are now grown up but was a registered childminder in the past.
I have quite a lot of childcare vouchers built up and could pay her a higher hourly rate if I used them. However I don't want to put her under undue pressure to register with Ofsted if it is a really complicated or cumbersome process.
Anyway, I don't know anything about the process myself so wondering if you wise ladies could outline the registration procedure to me. I wouldn't like to suggest something I know nothing about.
Thanks in advance

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Cindy34 · 05/09/2014 06:10

Is she caring for your children at your home (nanny) or caring for them at her home (childminder). The registration types are different. How long per day?

Cost, time, hassle. Unless she is doing other nanny/childminding, then probably not worth the bother.

Any school holiday clubs, tuition, you could use the vouchers for?

BranchingOut · 05/09/2014 07:04

If she is a nanny in your own home then the process is fairly straightforward, although I think she would need to do a paediatric first aid course.

ACM88 · 05/09/2014 17:48

It's not difficult in the sense that it's mentally challenging, but Ofsted are notoriously slow, and inconsistent. From start to finish registration process takes at least 12weeks. It will make little difference that she has been previously registered, she will still need new insurance, first aid, DBS, she may be given same Ofsted no. but that's about it.

I registered as a CM and it seemed to take forever, my friend is currently registering as a nanny, and she feels equally frustrated by it, so I don't think there is much difference between the two. The only thing that comes to mind as a CM if you have other people living in your house(16yrs+), they also need DBS checked, which can make process longer. You also have added pressures of keeping your house child friendly, but if she has own children! she will know this already.

springlenner · 07/09/2014 09:39

She will be doing approx 10-12 hours a week for us and has a paed first aid certificate and DBS check. Just in our home- school pick up time to tea time three days a week.
I'm not bothered either way just thought I'd ask in case she's interested and it would be convenient to pay with childcare vouchers.
Thanks

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adp73 · 07/09/2014 10:29

AMC88 there is a very big difference between registering with Ofsted as a Nanny and as a Childminder!

A Nanny can register without inspection. Ofsted do not inspect the home of her/his employer nor do they inspect the person, the registration is purely a function to allow the parents to access Childcare Vouchers or Tax Credits. It is good that at least it forces the Nanny to complete a First Aid Course, be DBS checked and hold Insurance but that is about it. It takes weeks to Register and it costs about £110 which the Employer should pay.

Before you can Register as a Childminder you have to have a Health Check which can cost anything up to £100, a DBS £55 plus one on every member of your household over 16yrs at £55 each, Pead First Aid cost £50 to £120, Child Protection Training approx £40, CYPOP 5 cost approx £1000.

When you have all the above, which can take 6-9mths minimum you have a pre inspection by Ofsted and at that time if they are happy with your home, that you are fully familiar with the Early Years Foundation Stage (EYFS) which we all have to follow and impliment, that you have PLI insurance, House and Contents Insurance and the correct Car Insurance, that you have all the correct paperwor with reagrd to recording every child's details, permission and consent forms and the Statutory Polices in place. There can be a wait of several weeks for the Pre Inspection to happen and then you have to wait for the result and for your Certificate to be sent before you can start work.

The whole process to Register as a Childminder can take a Year or more and costs several Hundreds of Pounds.

There is no way Registering as a Nanny or a Childminder are similar.

Personally I think if a Nanny/Parent wants Ofsted Registration they should have to do more or at least pay the more realistic cost of an Ofsted Inspection which is approx £900.

nannynick · 07/09/2014 12:54

The nanny registration system is cost neutral, it is not subsidised by Government. Unlike the childminder and nursery registration system, which costs a lot more than the fee being charged.

I agree that the registration system is different - a nanny is registered, a childminder or nursery is regulated.

springlenner - if they are only working 10-12 hours a week, I can not imagine it is going to be worth it to them to register. If you NEED them to register then you can ask them, find someone who already is registered. If you can use Childcare Vouchers elsewhere, then do that.

insancerre · 07/09/2014 15:26

First aid certificates ate valid for 3 years
If she has not been a cm for a few years is her first aid still valid?
As a new employee you should redo the dbs unless she has paid the yearly subscription to make it portable

ACM88 · 07/09/2014 15:30

I know the jobs are very different, you missunderstand me. I meant there is little difference in how frustrating it can be to register as a CM or nanny.

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