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Ofsted are coming to visit me, what do I need to know?

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PixieofCatan · 06/08/2014 14:45

I'm a nanny so on the voluntary register, what do I need to do to prepare?

They're coming to my home address next week which is a massive PITA and she wasn't happy about it but I can't have her at my work address and she isn't allowed to meet in a public place Confused

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Cindy34 · 06/08/2014 15:48

Have your certificates, DBS/CRB check(s)

Know about safeguarding children, whom to contact if you have a concern (local authority will have a number to call)

Have public liability insurance certificates

Be aware that you need to tell parents about any hazards in their home.

Have told parents how they can contact Ofsted.

PixieofCatan · 06/08/2014 16:08

Thanks :) I have a folder/portfolio with the first three in thankfully! (Just checked it was up to date!)

I will leave a message at work when I pop in tomorrow with Ofsted contact details just so that they have it written down.

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adp73 · 06/08/2014 17:53

I am very surprised she agreed to come to your home she should be going to your place of work and I think if you can't have her visit at your place of work you should be de registered. What a laugh. That isn't an inspection!!

I think it should be that if Nannies are Registered with Ofsted so their parents can make use of the Childcare Vouchers they should be on the Early Years and the VOl Register and follow EYFS and do all the work childminders have to do and keep all the records to be allowed to be registered and then have a full inspection. My last one took 4 hours and I had two inspectors going over my paperwork and observing me and asking child development questions about the 3 children in my care.

You are windging about a couple of sheets proving you are insured and have First Aid! They wouldn't have Registered you unless you had a CRB or DBS done anyway.

Sorry if this sounds harsh but I don't see why I should have to do so much and endure 2 inspectors for half a day in my home so my parents can access Childcare Vouchers and Nannies do nothing.

DearGirl · 06/08/2014 19:35

Nannies don't do nothing Hmm we just don't have to follow a curriculum or keep records.

As someone working in a private home it is up to my employers if they allow a stranger into their home, and it isn't upto this stranger to tell a family, how their employee should behave, what their children should be doing, and other bureaucratic nonsense.

FlorenceMattell · 06/08/2014 19:46

when a nanny is Ofsted Registered ; it is herself and her practice that are Registered NOT the setting. So no need for the inspector to visit a parents home.
As a professional nanny we need to show we have up to date paediatric first aid. Safeguarding knowledge. The parents have Ofsted's contact number. We also need to make parents aware of any dangers in the home, but can't make parents comply. I personally have policies I give to parents to support this.
I work one day a week. Chances are if Ofsted chose to inspect me it would be a day off.

nannynick · 06/08/2014 20:17

Parents are hardly likely to let Government into their home to dictate what happens in their home. Even out current Government won't go quite that far!

That is the key difference in my view, a childminder runs a business so their business premises can be visited, where as a nanny works for a private individual(s) whose home is their private domain. Ofsted inspectors have Power of Entry into a childminder's premises, nursery premises, they don't have power of entry into a private home.

nannynick · 06/08/2014 21:27

Some recent inspection reports have said:

ensure an appropriate first aid qualification is in place and maintained at all times

ensure that insurance in respect of public liability is in place at all times.

Looking at the wording of those I suspect that Ofsted are looking at the dates on First Aid and Insurance to confirm that they were valid for the entire time of registration. So if you have been registered for many years, make sure you have previous certificates.

PixieofCatan · 06/08/2014 22:30

adp I'm not registered for my place of works benefit, I'm registered because it's required of the council to be on their childcarer list, so by that logic, I should be inspected in the council offices...

It's up to you to have inspectors in your home, my bosses shouldn't have to have their privacy invaded nor should they have to take a day off off of work to look after the children so that I can concentrate on an inspector for something that doesn't actually affect them.

And FWIW, I'm not whining about it, it's a PITA because I live in a shared house, so my housemates will be in and out going about their daily business, I can't ask them to bugger off or avoid the kitchen so that an inspector can check my certificates. I was told when I registered that inspectors could meet you in public places, so I was somewhat put on the spot today when I discovered that they weren't allowed to do that any more!

And RE not doing anything, seriously? We provide different services compared to each other.

Will catch up with everybody else in the morning, am about to head to bed.

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FlorenceMattell · 07/08/2014 08:09

Hope the inspection goes well Pixie.
I wonder if it is correct re inspectors not being able to meet you in a public place. Wonder if you could meet in a local children's centre for example but I suppose they may charge for a room.
As our homes are not registered don't see how they can enforce a home visit. My husband works nights , what if he said no to inspector visiting a particular day. NannyNick nicely explained I think re employers home their private space.

adp73 · 08/08/2014 00:44

PixieofCatan surely you being registered with Ofsted does affect your employer because if you were not registered they could not use Childcare Vouchers and make use of the associated benefits?

I don't think Nannies should be allowed to be registered it is a nonsense as you say Nannies and Childminders are two very different things. I think if a parent decides to use a Nanny in their own home then that is their choice and they then know that they are choosing to not use Ofsted Registered care so they can't use Vouchers or claim Tax Credits, simple. Also much more simple for the Nanny.

PixieofCatan · 08/08/2014 07:59

adp They don't use vouchers, so no, it does not affect them. I know exactly how Ofsted reg works and the benefits to some families, two of my previous families have needed the registration, but even in those circumstances I wouldn't have been able to have an inspector at their houses as I cared for children with autism, and it would have disrupted them too much to have strangers coming into their homes.

I disagree, I think that nannies should be encouraged more and anything that makes them more affordable to the average joe without a massive wage should be encouraged. Nannies offer a tailored, in-home service that no other childcare can manage to do, I've worked for women with CFS and ME, for whom getting out of the house was a massive ask, so they wouldn't have been able to access childcare. I've worked for a family with two disabled children, for whom the only way to get specialist childcare was by hiring a nanny. A teacher with a child who had autism who couldn't find a childminder willing to take her daughter on and later realised that it would leave her daughter without 1-to-1 care, which is critical for her at this point.

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PixieofCatan · 08/08/2014 08:46

And thanks to everybody else btw, my pet died yesterday morning so I wasn't really in the mood to think about ofsted! I will reprint my insurance certificate from the year before last so that I have most of the insurance history. They can contact my brokers if they need anything further back as I don't have that email anymore! I have two previous years ones.

I have recently passed my renewal dates for both insurance and first aid so I'm guessing that's why I've been flagged!

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