Monthly pay

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I work one day a week as nanny for a family. I am employed the 4 other days by two other families
It is the one day family, well parents that are driving me spare. It is all to do with money. MB tells me regularly how tight money is for them. How kitty is small or none existent because they are short. My pay has been late on several occasions which have meant I have had to grovel with bank to avoid charges.
I am just fed up if it. They employ me to care for their children while they are at work. I am paid for this. Surely I do not need to know their financial situation. My other families do not discuss their finances with me, they just make sure I am paid and have a kitty.
I am thinking that I really do not need the hassle. The extra money is nice but I could manage easily without or pick up another single day. I have worked for them for 18 months.
Advice please...... anyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Very unprofessional of them. If the amount is regular then you could ask for a standing order to be set up so they don't mess you around. Or next time it happens ask them to move to paying you on the 15th of the month (2 weeks in arrears and 2 weeks in advance) so that you aren't the last money going out of their bank account each month.

Or just quit and do causal or agency work on your free day.

I don't understand why, if you can manage easily without their money, the late payment is causing you to grovel with the bank?!

If you like the job apart from this issue and don't need the money, then I would just carry on and accept that they pay you on the 5th of the following month instead of the 28th or whatever. As long as you don't need the money, it's not that much of a problem. Do they always pay you eventually?

I would lay it out straight to them. Nobody goes to work and has to listen to the boss morning about paying them.

You do not really want to know about their money issues. It is not as though you can do anything to help them, or do they think you will offer to work for free?

If they pay eventually and you like the job, then keep on doing it.
If you feel it is time to move on, then look for something else or enjoy having a child-free day. Find the work-life balance that suits you.

OUTRAGEOUS "I don't understand why, if you can manage easily without their money, the late payment is causing you to grovel with the bank?! "

I previously worked more days for them, they were my main salary. This is when they paid late, well into the next month. They are still messing me about though.
I now have another much better paid main job.

I can see why it would be a problem if it was your main job, but if it's just a top-up then I'd carry on if you like the job. As long as they're paying you eventually.

I think the kitty shouldn't be a problem for one day a week either. You can stick to free/low cost activities for one day a week.

If you don't like the job, find something else or enjoy a four day week.

As it's a one day Job I would ask to be paid weekly

Agree if you can afford not to work for them Then stop - you say you can survive without the money - tho a top up is always nice

You don't want to know their financial commitments and next time they moan simply say - if you are struggling to pay me then maybe I should leave and find another job as I have xyz coming out and need financial security.

Kitty. Yes nice to have one but for a one day job find free stuff at sure start centres or a m&t will cost £1-2 - or play at home , at parks or with friends for free

It's annoying to be paid late and no need for it - I have written in my contract that if I am paid late and have bank charges that the employers pay them

Or leave and temp on ad hoc basis on that one day

One day week should be paid weekly. If they don't pay, don't work.

In relation to a kitty, depends on context. When we first had our nanny she scheduled actives for the holiday that amounted to hundreds of pounds per week: zoo, cinema, iceskating.

I had a number of conversations about wanting to be more relaxed about DCs activities - genuinely believe they need good proportion of free time - but was falling in deaf ears so had to sit her down and say there is not an unlimited supply of money and you need to keep the cost (and expectations of the DC down)

Kitty, most weeks I do not need any kitty money as I do freebies, park, crafts, play dates. It is summer holiday and I took children on trip by bus. They loved it. Then we invited a number of their friends round for afternoon to play in pool. This week will be park and crafts. No kitty required.
I appreciate everyone that has given me helpful comments.
I will look for casual agency work, or one day job. Once that is sorted I will give my 4 weeks notice.

Weekly pay costs more to do in admin cost now that many payroll companies charge different fees for monthly vs weekly payroll.

As it used to be your main job, did you have a net wage agreement? If so, when changing to one day per week did the pay change to being done on an agreed Gross amount? I wonder if that may be the issue, the cost to the parents is perhaps more than they expected?

I have always done my salaries by gross. So this is surely not the problem.

Surely a lot of the problem is having to listen to them constantly moan. That would be enough to leave. It's hard enough work to entertain children all day without having to beg for your wages.

So they just are moaners. Wonder if they moan about the cost of maintaining a pool (guessing you did not mean a paddling pool).

I have a parent who constantly moans about how hard up he is and what a big chunk my costs are out of his wages. I find this almost incredibly rude (and ridiculous, given some of the extravagant purchases he also tells me about). How would he feel if I banged on about how much better off I would be if he paid me better? I'm tempted every time he starts to suggest he seeks a better deal elsewhere, but then I think it's not the children's fault he's so lacking in manners.

yes have had friends boss's winge about how much a nanny costs and then following week buy a new car worth £35k ie a years salary for their nanny, to drive to station and back

I sympathise. As a nanny, the mum of my first family often made references to how well paid I was, and how she didn't know why she bothered working giving the total she paid out to all the staff in the household. It was offensive and so patronising, especially given the classic car, the diamonds, the boutique dresses...!
My pay was normally late - on one occasion 6 weeks late. The mum commented once 'it's not like you have bills to pay' as if that was ok (I was live-in) (I still had direct debits, eg. contact lenses!).

These last few messages have made me laugh out loud. Thank you those people xx

I have had emails about pay both last night and this morning, which I do not need. It is stressing me out. When I worked in world of education I didn't get emails or texts about pay during my weekend or in the evening. I am just not going to answer til it's my work day with them.
So there!
Now petulant child feels better.

Not on to forget to pay you - I did that once, was mortified and did it as soon as I realised. Now pay much earlier in the month so it doesn't happen again.

In terms of moaning that they are strapped for cash, it maybe depends on the context. My nanny was after a huge pay rise (10-20% net) for no real reason, I have a professional career and I think she thought we were much better off than we are. Telling her that I pay her more than half of my take home pay helped to make her expectations more realistic. But it was a one off comment as part of an appraisal, not an ongoing moan.

I worked for a lady who always paid me late and often asked me to take children out and she would give me the money at end of day.

I just couldn't afford to let it go on so asked her to set up a standing order for my salary and was honest if I didn't have the cash on me to bankroll the children's activities.

It worked.