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Childminding a friends baby

11 replies

Poppety · 03/07/2014 19:01

Hi everyone
I had a discussion with a friend today about taking care of her baby 3 days a week when she goes back to work and we are both pretty keen, but I wondered of anyone could give some advice?
I think I have to be registered as a childminder as she will be paying me

Many thanks!

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ThinkIveBeenHacked · 03/07/2014 19:05

Yes you will need to be registered, have a first aid certificate and will be subject to Ofsted inspections. You may need some sort of insurance (to cover accidents and incidents whilst you are in charge).

You will need to declare the income and complete tax returns yearly.

You will (I expect) need some sort of Early Years Foundation training as Ofsted will want to see how you are monitoring the mindees alongside EYF targets and expectations.

PixieofCatan · 03/07/2014 19:09

Your house or hers? If at hers then you don't need to register, but you'll need to register on the voluntary register if she wants to pay using vouchers. Also, if you work at hers you'll be her nanny, she'll have to become your employer. If you do it self employed you risk her getting in trouble with HMRC as very few nannies can be legitimately self employed.

To get that you need a Common Core Skills course or CYPOP5 (basic childcare information really), 12 hour paediatric first aid and liability insurance.

If at yours then yes, you'll need to become a childminder I think.

Poppety · 03/07/2014 19:33

Hi I'm a trained NNEB nursery nurse, although have had a long break from childcare but understand the EYFS etc as I'm the chair of my older daughters pre school.
It'll be at my house with my baby too (like having twins - eek!)
I already have my own business making wedding cakes so I am registered with HMRC and the tax office, so I'll need to add this business to it to pay what I owe properly
I was first aid trained but I'd need to get this re done as it's long since expired!

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eeyore12 · 03/07/2014 20:04

Then yes you will need to contact your local authority and gets the wheels in motion to become registered as a childminder with them and ofsted can take a good few months to become registered. If they need you before you are registered you could work at their house as a nanny temporarily

nannynick · 03/07/2014 21:44

Would there be any issues with it being care of two under ones? Can't say I understand the current ratio, would not be continuity of care as is new business. Any childminders able to confirm situation regarding two under ones?

HSMMaCM · 04/07/2014 06:37

Good point nannynick. Your registration will only allow you one under one, except in exceptional circumstances.

Blondeshavemorefun · 04/07/2014 06:44

Sounds of would be easier if you looked after at her house as sometimes cm registration can take a long time - plus age depending on babies cm
rarely have 2 under 1

Greenandcabbagelooking · 04/07/2014 06:51

Surely your own child doesn't count as you are not minding it for a fee, it is your baby?!

eeyore12 · 04/07/2014 07:01

Yes your children do count in your ratios even though you don't get paid for looking after them, you still need to be able to give them the attention etc they need as well as the children you are being paid to look after.

nannynick · 04/07/2014 07:27

Easier to be their nanny but things like National Minimum Wage and PAYE would apply, so probably more costly for your friend than using a childminder.

You could care for your friends baby for Free but once payment is involved you get into childminder registration.

There are slight differences between countries so check regulations in your country. Info so far on this thread is for England, regulator: Ofsted.

busyDays · 04/07/2014 19:23

Setting up as a childminder, paying for training and getting your house ready for the Ofsted inspection are all a pretty expensive business. If you are only planning on looking after one child for 3 days a week you may find that the expenses eat up a disproportionately large part of your income and you don't actually get left with all that much. Being Ofsted registered also brings a massive amount of extra work that will eat into your free time. I would really question whether all the effort required will be worth it for the amount of income you will get, unless of course you planning on looking after other children as well.

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