How much do you pay your live-out nanny?

[Monkeyandanimal]

I'm asking for my sister, who is due to go back to work in October. There are no nursery or childminder places available....she's beginning to fret.

It depends on where you and what sort of experience you want!

London live out nannies, depending on experience earn between £7 - £15 gross, some get even more!

Further north I would say NMW to £12 gross.

She would have to factor in employers national insurance, transport costs for nanny and child/ren, either bus, petrol for nanny's car or providing a car (plus fuel).

Depending on how many hours she needs the nanny, she would need to provide meals, drinks and snacks (I get 3 meals in my contract as I work 12 hours a day.)

Heating - the nanny will be in during the day with her child and may need the heating on, where it would not be on if the child was in a nursery/CM.

Wear and tear on the house, I have been a nanny for 28 years, I have flooded a kitchen twice, crashed 5 cars (only one was my fault and I offered to pay the excess but my employers would not hear of it) broken various cups, plates (including a christening present!) and glasses, a vase, a ceramic crock pot, a window (playing football with my charges!) and most recently a sink! But I'm sure there's more!

Activities for the child/ren - classes, toddler groups, outings to zoos/farms/soft play. Craft supplies (nursery/CM would supply these). Baking supplies. Educational toys.

It's not just the wages!

Crashed 5 cars! Thanks for all that info Callaird; i'll pass it on. It seems like definitely the most expensive option.

Our nanny does four days a week - 38 hours and gets 21k gross.

Expensive for one kid, with two kids starts to be a much more reasonable option.

thanks pomme. i don't think it will be an option for her at that price.

Lots of people nanny share too so that can really cut the cost. We don't have a daily nanny now but we used to and it was the cheapest option with 4 under 4 (we both worked full time) and again for the older children (after school and holidays) when baby twins came along. Cheaper than lots of nursery places.

We have 3DC under 7 (DS is 15 months old so needs F/T childcare whilst 2DDs are in school so only need before/after school care) and we employ a nanny now but used childminders when we only had two.

Our Nanny only works term time and earns c£19,000

Is an expensive choice until you have more children when the benefits far out weigh the costs.

Are there no nurseries or childminders who will have spaces coming up - lots 'lose' children as they start school/pre-school in September so spaces come up.

Is the problem that the baby will still be under 1 when your sister goes back to work - as that can be harder to find with someone with a space for under 1s.

Good luck and I hope something turns up for her.

I think she's just too late to be looking! There are a few childminders but she didn't get a good vibe from them. The nurseries near her are all full with long waiting lists....unless she takes her baby on a long commute and tries a fairly grim nursery near her work..... I think she will have to try a less than ideal option as a stop gap measure. Thanks anyway all!

I live in N London and have a two day a week nanny, 21 hours total and she gets 10 per hour net. I get very little change out of £1300 a month all in, including tax, NI, mileage and expenses ( and she is very frugal with expenses!)