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ofsted inspection for nanny. HELP.

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FrustratedNanny2014 · 27/06/2014 10:00

Hello I'm an ofsted registered nanny.
I have been informed that I'm being indspected and have set a date for next week.
I have completed all the paper work that I think is neccessary but am concerned about my risk assessments as I cannot find the previous years risk assessments( 3 years worth) I only have this years risk assessment. I will continue to look for them however! Can anyone tell me what the inspector will be looking for? And what paper work I need to show her? When I asked her what I should bring she was very vague.

Thanks so much in advance!Smile

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nannynick · 27/06/2014 12:22

BAPN Guide

Make sure you have training, first aid and insurance certificates.

nannynick · 27/06/2014 12:23

Link does not seem to work.

Google: BAPN nanny ofsted

FrustratedNanny2014 · 27/06/2014 13:44

Thanks for the advice @nannynick.
I have a level 3 childcare quakificiation, recently completed my second first aid course, have safeguarding tranining and have just printed out my insurance certificate.
Regarding the risk assessments do you think that will be an issue?
Will the inspector want to see a copy of my car insurance certificate that states I have business use on my car for when I transport the children?

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Shosha1 · 27/06/2014 13:49

I was inspected a couple of years ago. Please make sure your are inspected vasca nanny notva childminders I n the voluntary register as I was ( inspector wanted to see my register policies and fire certificate ) tried to tell her that I didn't need them as a nanny and she insisted I did.

After a LOT of phone calls to Ofsted they cancelled the result if my inspection ( unsatisfactory after always gettingbva outstanding as a CM) and said they would reinspect me.

I'm still waiting.

Shosha1 · 27/06/2014 13:49

I was inspected a couple of years ago. Please make sure your are inspected vasca nanny notva childminders I n the voluntary register as I was ( inspector wanted to see my register policies and fire certificate ) tried to tell her that I didn't need them as a nanny and she insisted I did.

After a LOT of phone calls to Ofsted they cancelled the result if my inspection ( unsatisfactory after always gettingbva outstanding as a CM) and said they would reinspect me.

I'm still waiting.

MyBootsAreMuddy · 27/06/2014 14:00

My nanny was inspected 2 months ago and the inspector was only here an hour (but half of that was spent chatting to me about our horses and ds1's alpaca!).
She pretty much just wanted to see our nanny's certificates of qualification, nanny insurance and first aid(also looked at some other certificate s our nanny has for courses she has been on). Plus asked about her previous childcare experience and then asked a few questions about things such as 'what would you do if you were worried about one of the children's development or if she suspected any abuse or other issues' and about things like what she does re illness/medication.
It was all very quick and friendly and over with by the time they had finished their cuppa. She didn't even want to see nanny with the children!
She then came out with me into the farm yard as she wanted to have a nose at our animals.

FrustratedNanny2014 · 27/06/2014 14:02

I have many policies and procedures. Not entirely sure if I have to have them or not, but wanted to cover all bases. I have read a lot of Ofsteds documents regarding what is neccessary for voluntary register and home child carers and have found them confusing. May just be me, but I don't feel it's totally clear. I have child profiles for each child (full name, d.o.b, contact numbers etc) I have policies for complaints, safeguarding, lost child, medicines, accident and injury, behaviour management etc. I record all medicines given and seek permission. I record any injuries more than a tiny bruise or cut. I'm.not sure if there's any more I should be doing?!

Has Ofsted taken any action against the inspector you had?! Sounds like they were truely incompetent. (Think I've seen a previous thread by you regarding your situation actually)

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FrustratedNanny2014 · 27/06/2014 14:04

Thanks My Boots that's a big help. The inspector didn't want to see policies, risk assessments, medical slips etc?

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MyBootsAreMuddy · 27/06/2014 14:33

She did ask a few questions about risks and when our nanny did to minimise them but also stated that as she was a nanny and therefore the house wasn't hers she was aware that only certain risks could be covered by the nanny as for instance if a family didn't want Stair Gates etc then the nanny obviously can't use them.
As you have said in your op that you have a risk assessment for this year I can't see it hurting to pop it in with your paperwork for the inspector to look at.
The inspector pretty much just said the inspection is purely to check you have all the documents required to be registered and is not an 'inspection' as such as unlike a nursery/childminder, nanny's answer to the parents wishes and rules re the education/care of the children and not what the government/ofsted think should be done.

nannynick · 27/06/2014 14:44

No written risk assessments. Verbally telling parents about things that need fixing is fine.

No policies procedures.

Checking on nannies is really all about the basic paperwork.

It will be fine. Let us know how it goes.

FrustratedNanny2014 · 27/06/2014 14:48

Thank you. I will bring all paperwork that I have. I'm sure if she did want to see previous risk assessments (unlikely by the sound of it) I could find them. Moved house a few weeks ago so some things still boxed!
Does your nanny have policies and procedures?

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FrustratedNanny2014 · 27/06/2014 14:49

@nannynick thats a HUGE relief. Thanks so much. Sounds like i've spent a lot of time on paperwork unneccesarily.

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FrustratedNanny2014 · 27/06/2014 14:50

I will update when the inspections over! certainly feeling a lot lot better about it now!

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MyBootsAreMuddy · 27/06/2014 15:01

No our nanny has no written policies and procedures and none were asked for. The inspector just asked a few simple questions that ere relevant to our family ie, 6 dc aged at the time 2-14 and the fact we live in a large house on a farm in the arse end of nowhere!.

I really wouldn't worry, you will be fine. It's all very laid back and simple. They just want to see you have the relevant qualifications and insurance and first aid is current . It lookslike you have everything covered and sound like an experienced and caring nanny.

FrustratedNanny2014 · 01/07/2014 12:18

Had my inspection today, (Tuesday is my BUSIEST day too)
All went well and passed with no problems. However as Shosha1 warned she did seem to be inspecting me to a different standard. She expected a written. Safeguarding and complaints policy (which i have anyway). I showed her the bapn guide to nanny ofsted inspection that I printed (thanks to nannynick!) She looked at it and said that I should be careful about who's advice I listened to as these policys are a legal requirement for me! She showed me ofsteds forms (which I have anyway) and they do appear to say I need these things. (I am just registered in the voluntary section of the childcare register)
As I said, it wasn't a problem for me, I just wonder if I should have made a bigger deal about it as everyone on here has said that this is wrong! Thanks for all the advice everyone!!

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nannynick · 01/07/2014 13:30

Good to hear it went ok.
Which Ofsted form didvshe show you? They do have a habit of changing them so would not surprise me if it were now a requirement though I wonder how many nannies have them. I don't so will need to create, IF they are now a requirement.

nannynick · 01/07/2014 13:43

Their guide to registration and the requirements for registration don't say they are needed for Home Childcarers. Least I can't see it.

FrustratedNanny2014 · 01/07/2014 13:46

That was the document she was looking at too. I said that I thought unless it explicitley says relevant for home child carers that it wasn't relevant but she said ANYTHING that said it was relevant for both or just for the voluntary register were applicable for me. Hence my confusion :s

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FrustratedNanny2014 · 01/07/2014 13:48

The documents name is "Requirements for the childcare register: childminders and home child carers."

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nannynick · 01/07/2014 14:02

But Hone Childcarers and Latter Years Childminders are different, yet on same part of register.

Wonder if anyone else has been inspected this year and found the inspector wanting those policies.

Did you create your own or get from somewhere and modify?

FrustratedNanny2014 · 01/07/2014 14:06

Modified ones found online. I was taught how to write them att college too. Someone posted above about having the same experience.

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