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Marylou62 · 21/06/2014 09:35

I am hoping that nannynick and others will help me to advise parents how to pay me! I have just excepted a nanny job, but it will be I day one week and 3 another week. Can we add up days over year, then divide by 52 so I get a weekly amount regardless of how many hours I do? We will then adjust if hours are much more or less. It will come to about £160 a week so no tax? NI should be a couple of £ a week. I have advised them of Nannytax company. Is this quite easy? MB will be v busy and I don't want to add to her stress. Am excited as lost out on last job I really wanted as I think they went with other nanny because she was SE. They actually said it would be easier for them even tho I did say that nannies cant be SE. I just want to be able to help these parents with the facts. Thankyou in advance.

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Soggysandpit · 21/06/2014 11:16

Yes, you can annualise the hours and any decent tax agency will help them with that. nannytax is the most expensive, I use payefornannies, they are excellent and much cheaper. They will sort out all of that for them. £160 per week is, I think, just above the tax threshold but again the payroll company will advise.

nannynick · 21/06/2014 12:51

Can we add up days over year, then divide by 52 so I get a weekly amount regardless of how many hours I do?

Yes, but it can create problems when it comes to ending the agreement. So it is vital that the actual hours worked each day are logged, so should the job end part way though a year, the correct amount final payment can be calculated (that payment may actually be a debt - you may owe them money).

Why weekly pay? Would you accept monthly?

It will come to about £160 a week so no tax? NI should be a couple of £
a week. I have advised them of Nannytax company. Is this quite easy?

Will this be your ONLY income? No money coming from anywhere else?

The monthly NI Lower Earnings Limit for 2014/15 is £481 per month.
May be best to use the monthly figure. If you are paid more than that then National Insurance will start to apply, also Employers NI will start to apply depending on salary. Payroll is easier to do monthly than weekly in my view. If using a payroll company, then they will often charge extra to do weekly payslips.

If not using a payroll company, then they can use the HMRC online system and handwrite payslips, or use lowcost software (think it's actually free for first 3 employees) BrightPay.

If using a payroll company, suggest they shop around for one which is lowest cost for what they want to do, as the payroll should be quite easy. The difference in cost will probably be down to if monthly or weekly payslips are needed. They should also consider if they need access to support lines, such as employment law, which some payroll providers include in their fee. PAYEforNannies often gets mentioned on here, currently they charge £125 for monthly payroll, £230 for weekly.

MB will be v busy and I don't want to add to her stress.
Suggest she calls PAYEforNannies or NannyTax and gets them to set everything up for her. First though, decide if you really need weekly pay, or if monthly will work. Also work out the annual hours.

Marylou62 · 21/06/2014 14:52

Thanx Soggy and Nick...I knew you'd have answers. I can now go and see them with some facts. Yes will be only income and expect it to be long term job (hopefully!) So am aware of keeping hours worked/owed etc. It will all change in feb as MB is GP training and have even taken a small paycut with understanding that it will go up in feb. I am very excited as 1st time ever been without nanny job since feb. Theres not a lot around here at the moment but this job is ideal and am looking forward to starting. Thankyou again.

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nannynick · 21/06/2014 15:40

Good luck. Agree salary as Gross, so MB knows that her cost will be Salary + Employers NI + payroll admin and activity budget, mileage etc.

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