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Paediatric Nanny with own child

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Tallulaxx · 17/06/2014 15:43

Would you really only pay me £5ph because I'm bringing my own child? I mean really a paediatric nurse with lots of experience? Are you having a laugh feel abit insulted. I'm in London btw and was not expecting the full amount and happy to take a pay cut but £5 really?

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Tallulaxx · 17/06/2014 18:51

I'm in the process of doing a childminding course so yes a possibilty Devere! I do bank work in hospitals but hate doing 4 nights in a row then catching up with sleep. Want to see my children whilst they are young so i have taken a career break and thought Nannying would be great. With jobs being sort after I want to stand out from the crowd and I have had a great nannying job which comes to an end in July and she loved the fact I had nursing qualifications.

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Cindy34 · 17/06/2014 18:53

Its the managing the home, getting several children to their various schools/activities, experience of dealing with children who are being separated from their parents, tantrums.

Your nursing will certainly have cross over things with nannying but you need to find a way of showing that.

Cindy34 · 17/06/2014 18:57

Children? More than one, is going to make it a harder sell in mh view. I know a nanny who has two children but on the days she nannies she does not have any contact with her own children, her DH does the school run.

Get a great reference from your current employer, written plus have them available to provide verbal reference. Ask them about why they choose you, see if you can find out what made you appealing to them.

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Tallulaxx · 17/06/2014 18:59

Experienced in dealing with tantrums and separation anxiety I've worked on childrens wards. I manage my home so can manage another and have done schools runs to two different schools and nursaries so can show my experience in all those areas.

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Blondeshavemorefun · 17/06/2014 19:02

so basically you have no exp/nanny qual, but you have a nurse/ped qual so you thought you would try and be a nanny

the lack of s/c nanny exp is prob why you offered a very low (illegal) wage

obv as a nanny if you are lucky you can take your child to work, as a nurse you cant, is this why you want to change?

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Tallulaxx · 17/06/2014 19:02

My other daughter is 10 and doesn't have anything to do with work her dad is around after school and before. Thanks for the advise Cindy. I think the prospect of losing my job I'm feeling crappy at the moment.

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Lighthousekeeping · 17/06/2014 19:03

Why do you want to be a nanny can't you do a couple of nights as a nurse agency? If it's money you will be on £20 an hour using all your qualifications.

Blondeshavemorefun · 17/06/2014 19:07

crossed posts,you have had a nanny job but obv not a lot of nanny exp

some parents will try and get away with paying a low/illegal wage, so dont be offended by low offers iyswim

i have over 23yrs exp all sole charge from new borns (including twins) to 11yrs yet i still get mums esp on childcare.co.uk asking me if i would work for nmw (so legal) - erm no - i can command a high salary as im good at my job

clam · 17/06/2014 19:08

But if you charged, or were paid, the going rate without your own child, presumably you'd then have to pay for your own childcare on top. Which would leave you much worse off. So don't you need to factor that in?

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Tallulaxx · 17/06/2014 19:09

I am a nanny I have been one for a year so yes I do have experience and yes I do do agency to keep my hand in just found it stressful with a family.

Anyway whether I'm a nurse, norland nanny or just a nanny the point is some obviously find it acceptable to pay less than minimum wage which I thinks very shitty.

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Tallulaxx · 17/06/2014 19:11

Its shocking Blondes it really is damn right cheeky imo.

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Blondeshavemorefun · 17/06/2014 19:26

admitley i have never been asked to work for lower then nmw, so yes they were cheeky

i totally understand that some families cant pay a good salary and scrimp to and can only afford to pay nmw

i couldnt imagine nor could i afford to earn what i do, but then to pay someone at least nmw

hence why i have always said that employers should pay their childcare then be taxed on the remaining amount

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Tallulaxx · 17/06/2014 19:31

So true Blondes. I think some believe bringing your own child is a nannyshare hence the low wage when reality it's not. Anyway thanks for your advice everybody going to get my head out the sand! I think Childminding is the way foward!

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Karoleann · 17/06/2014 19:38

I'd be offended too if I were you....
When you do apply for a position, I'd put on your salary expectations and then you won't get people taking the .
However, there are an awful lot of nannies in London competing for the same jobs, if its a full time role - rather than after school, maybe pitch yourself a little lower?

Cindy34 · 17/06/2014 20:00

The "Mothers Help for 3 pounds an hour" discussion just goes to show that some people will try to get someone to care for their children for very little money. Alas not much can be done. Apply for jobs where they state what the salary is, with jobs where they don't say then be upfront about what salary you want.

Childminding may be the way forward, there is lots of info on here from childminders.

Deverethemuzzler · 17/06/2014 20:06

We have lots of children with trachies, ng tubes, who have seizures and lots of conditions who need childminders.

If it is like that in my borough I am pretty sure it would be a national thing.

Its really hard for parents of disabled children to find specialist CMs. I know of only two in our area.
Perhaps that is the direction you could go in?

Just a thought.

AMI88 · 17/06/2014 20:46

I have always wandered (taking the discussion in a diff direction) why NWOC get paid less per hour? It's not at any cost to parents is it?

I appreciate a nanny role is traditionally 1:1 but it's not as if the quality of care reduces by £3p/h- does it? Would love to hear parents views!

fledermaus · 17/06/2014 20:49

Quality of care reduces and there is extra hassle involved for the parents.

AMI88 · 17/06/2014 20:52

Is there? What extra hassle would you say? I'm not trying to question you- I'm a happy CM, I just wandered!!

AMI88 · 17/06/2014 20:55

I must admit I wouldn't consider ever paying anyone less because they had a child. I would either pay them £10p/h (average nr me) or I would employ someone else, but I don't think the fact that the child accompanying them to work would influence my decision...

fledermaus · 17/06/2014 21:04

Extra equipment at the parents' house (high chairs, cots), more wear and tear, baby proofing for longer if the child is younger, illness, children maybe unable to do certain activities.

AMI88 · 17/06/2014 21:14

I can see if nannies children, and parents children were years apart then of course baby proofing could be an inconvenience...not sure if personally it's worth less per hour, are there many NWOC around? I would think being a CM is much more appealing!?

AMI88 · 17/06/2014 21:15

I suppose that goes back to the point of the original post- maybe you should look at CM OP! X

Blondeshavemorefun · 17/06/2014 22:16

A parent is paying a nanny to look after her children so if a nwoc works for her then her children won't be getting 100% attention and therefore a reduction is fair

Also the nanny isn't paying out for childcare and she can spend all day with her child

A drop in salary is only fair

nannynoss · 18/06/2014 12:12

I thought there was also a drop in salary because employers are paying out for more with an extra child in their home - food, hot water etc? I may be wrong though.