Nanny pay etc

[Kaz18]

I was a registered childminder last year but had to give it up and would love to start working with children again. I've been in talks with a family about becoming a nanny and we've now moved on to rate of pay. What's a typical rate? Should it be equal to, or above, national minimum wage? And does it depend on the number of children? I don't have any qualifications and only a few months experience so don't want to overcharge but also don't want to undersell myself. I will more than likely be dealing with my own taxes/NI if that makes a difference to rate of pay?

I'm in Scotland if that helps. Any advice would be great, thanks :)

Could you describe the work you would be doing, such as is it set days, set hours, who isvdeciding when you work and when you do not.

If working for one family ie a perm Job then you can't be self employed so they need to pay your taxes

Has to be over nmw and as little experience I would go in at £6.50/7 gross to gain exp and get ref

Unless you are going to have multiple employers you can't run your own tax and NI. A self employed nanny is a rare thing.
If the family you are going to work for are proposing to employ you on a full-time or near full-time basis then they will need to run a payroll/hire a payroll service and pay their share of your taxes, employers NI etc and deduct your taxes at source. By 2017 they will also need to set up a contributory pension with you.

Your post is somewhat contradictory - you were a registered childminder but you have no formal qualifications and only a few months experience? Working on the basis that you have experience as a childminder but v little as a nanny, I'd say it's largely irrelevant. It's the childcare aspect that's the important bit.

www.mranchovy.com/calc/ is a useful website.
www.nannytax.co.uk/ is a payroll service but also has useful information
www.nannytax.co.uk/2013-nannytax-wages-survey they also have a salary survey which is a good guide if a little on the high side in my view. Local agencies or websites will give you a better idea.

I agree that a starting salary would be a bit above NMW so £7 an hour perhaps.

However it is not the nanny who charges. The family sets the salary telling you how much they will pay.

Do not confuse childminding with nannying, they are different in particular in employment status, employment rights.

Let's say you work an 8-6 day, so 50 hours a week @ 7 per hour. Thats a gross salary of 18,250 per annum, and 19,671 to the employer.
However, you will be responsible for their children and their wellbeing, not cleaning the house. Whether you or the employer places a premium on this is a subjective thing....
Who will pick up the costs for Ofsted registration if required, first aid training etc?

Treadsoftly - thanks! I was only registered as a childminder for a few months (well only actually looked after children for a few months) so I don't have a huge amount of experience. I've done courses such as child protection, first aid etc so have those but no formal qualifications.

Thanks for the rest of the replies, I didn't know you couldn't be self employed. I think I'm going to contact an agency and go from there :)

It might be worth talking to a few nurseries. They may or may not sponsor you to get the qualifications. I had a nanny for 3 yrs with no formal qualifications though but lots of experience and she was brilliant. She did have a habit of reciting Gina Ford though which was a little irritating.

In Scotland, for parents to use Childcare Vouchers they need to recruit the nanny via an agency, so going via an agency sounds like a good idea.

NannyJob.co.uk carries some listings for nanny jobs in Scotland. If you are looking in Aberdeenshire, it looks like typical salary in that area currently is £8-9 gross an hour based on the few jobs advertised in April/May. The lack of nanny jobs is possibly something you will experience, so it is great that you are in talks with a family looking for a nanny but do make sure they have fully researched all that is involved being an employer.