Overnight rate?

[PixieofCatan]

Just wondering for future reference really: how much would you charge/ask for for an overnight as a nanny? What time do you stop charging the normal babysitting rate and start charging overnight rate? Do you charge differently for current employers and ad-hoc work? A premium for children who don't sleep through? Or one if you do have to get up in the night? I was thinking of charging until X time (uncertain yet) and then a set rate until 6/7am depending on what time I'd be expected to get up really.

I've had a couple of enquiries and have done a couple of overnights with my current employers. They gave me a set rate of £50 between 9pm and 7am, which was fine by me as I know the kids don't get up and they give me so much extra work that it's worthwhile losing a few quid on the usual babysitting rate between 9pm and 11/12pm because they more than make it up in extra hours and the higher babysitting rate they pay me. But I'm trying to work out a rate for some of my older families now who've enquired, but I still charge them the lower babysitting rates.

I usually pay normal babysitting rate from 11pm until children wake up, mine are now 7am/7.30.

I don't pay more than £8/hour for babysitting.

I normally charge babysitting rate from the time kids go to bed until midnight. Then half price until they wake in the morning. (I would charge full babysitting rate if they were up in the night though). (Nanny rate is £9p/h and babysitting £7p/h)
I haven't had to care for a non-sleeping baby overnight (apart from in a nanny job where I get time off in lieu) but I would probably charge full day rate in that case.

I do a sleeping rate of £30 midnight to 6am

I occasionally do babysitting and overnights with my regular nanny family, they usually pay me through a payroll company. Are they legally allowed to pay me less than minimum wage per hour? I'm thinking of telling them I will take half rates overnight stays but that takes me below NMW. Is this allowed?

Thanks all :)

Rm: I do any extra as self employed tbh, which is at whatever rate was previously agreed but exempt from nmw. Night workers in other fields don't always get min wage for sleep in jobs do they? So they must have a way around it

We pay £6 per hour (cheap Northern babysitter) and recently our regular babysitter stayed over. Normally when we go out we'd be back by 10.30 and as she'd come at 5.30 we paid a round number of hours for that period, then £30 overnight (so 5x normal hourly rate) and then hourly from 6.30 when he wakes up.