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nannyteacher2 · 05/05/2014 14:18

First post so be gentle!
I am currently employed as an early years teacher and have considering leaving teaching as it is consuming all my home time. I adore working with children and especially young children so I am considering nannying. I just wanted to get some opinions on what people thought about this and as parents would you employ a nanny with no actual nannying experience but a qualified teacher.

The obvious other consideration would be income as I would love to be a live out nanny so what sort of wage do people think is reasonable? (Based in north yorkshire) I adore working with children and really want to give this a go!

Also is it better to just advertise independently or to go with an agency?

Sorry for all the questions but just wanted to ask some experienced people!

Thanks guys in advance!

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nannynick · 05/05/2014 15:42

I would look at your current Pension arrangements. Whilst nannies will start to get pensions over time, employer contributions towards that will be quite low. Whereas your employer may be contributing quite a bit towards your pension.

Whilst that may not be enough of a reason to not change job, it may mean you look at salary differently.

Live-out nanny in North Yorkshire... £8-10 gross an hour perhaps.
Have a look at job listings: NannyJob: North Yorkshire Jobs
Alas few are indicating salary currently. There is one which is 60 hours a week, £350net, which works out to be a little over £7 gross an hour. MrAnchovy's PAYE Calculator will do Net to Gross calculations.
So perhaps my initial thought of £8+ is unrealistic, it may be lower.

considering leaving teaching as it is consuming all my home time.
Nannying can be 60 hours a week, all year round. How does teaching compare including home prep time?

Certainly there are nanny jobs which are less hours but they will also be less pay. There can be term time only nanny jobs, after-school nanny, all sorts of things but would they pay enough.

Register with an agency, plus look yourself.

buzzardbuzzard · 05/05/2014 21:54

I am leaving the Nannying profession to become an early years teacher!
Having Nannied for many years I was worried that I would spend all my time looking after other peoples children and not get round to having my own.
I like the school holidays and think that it would be better for when I have my own.
With your quals I think you could charge £15 per hour. I work as self employed Nanny whilst Im studying at uni and it works really well because I pick and choose my hours.
Register with ofsted and get you Nanny insurance and goodluck!

NannyLouise29 · 05/05/2014 22:09

I find that with nannying you have to be prepared to tow the line, so to speak. After running your own class do you think you'll be able to do this?

You hope you'll find a family with beliefs that are in line with your own with regard to discipline, eating habits, encouraging independence etc. However sometimes you need to shelve what you think and do as per parents instructions, and do it with a smile. I actually think this is the toughest part of any nanny job.

Otherwise I think it's a really rewarding job :)

buzzardbuzzard · 05/05/2014 22:25

Couldn't agree more NannyLouise, it's so important to find a family with views you are willing to practise. I had to leave a family because they didn't believe in giving conventional medicine to their children and forced them to have crystal healings when they were running a temperature/really ill. They felt that their children shouldn't be 'polluted' by other children so didn't have friends or send them to school (home schooled). For a long time I stayed just for the children's sake, so they could have some normality in their lives but it got too much for me and I now work with "normal" families.

nannyteacher2 · 15/05/2014 18:29

Well I'm definitely going to go for it guys! Thanks for all your advice! Isn't it funny Buzzard how people swop! After running my own class NannyLouise it has made me equally realise how you still have to toe the line about things that I might equally not agree we but I do understand your point that it's more intense for a family! If I could earn the sort of money Buzzard is on about it would be great but I think it's not exactly reachable if it's a full time live out position.

Nannynick my work load is not necessarily the problem even though it goes like this- in school at 7.30 then teach 9 til 3.30 then in school til 4.30 then home to work between 5.30 and 10. It's the fact that it bleeds into your life, there is no switch off!

Can I ask another question Nannynick? If you work for a nanny agency do they pay your tax or do the employers? Also do they take a cut of your wage so I would get a better wage sorting my own contract? I understand that it's protective to be with an agency but if it's going to leave me worse off might be worth a think. Also I can cope with a lower wage if it means that I can leave a job when I finish.

Thanks guys

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nannynick · 15/05/2014 21:28

I don't think any nanny agencies directly employ the nanny - with the exception of Asquith Nannies which seems to be a combination of nanny and nursery.

So the answer to your question is that the parents are usually the ones who are responsible for deducting income tax and national insurance from your gross salary and paying that to HMRC on your behalf. They also pay Employers national insurance and they provide you with a contract of employment (written statement), payslips with each payment to you, annual P60, all the usual sort of payroll stuff.

Nanny agencies are generally introduction agencies, they match parents looking for a nanny with suitable nannies. Parents pay the agency a fee for doing the matchmaking.

With nannying you can leave work at your finish time but your finish time may vary on occasion - parents have been known to get stuck in traffic, delayed on the train.

FlusteredFairy1 · 22/05/2014 15:33

I left teaching to become a nanny in 2012. Best move ever. I now earn £40k for a 60 hour week. I was doing far mor hours teaching. Leaving for work at 7am getting home at 7pm and the PPA at home.
My first job was not as well paid but my new one is fab. It is also literally 5 mins walk from my home..

Nanny nanny nanny. Use teaching experience and be happy.

FlusteredFairy1 · 22/05/2014 15:35

Oh! I used agencies, signed up to Pacey, got OfSTED registered.
Pacey excellent for legal help and insurance very good.

FlusteredFairy1 · 22/05/2014 15:37

Also, I taught for 15 years so got good pension already.

Lots of parents want teachers as nannies.

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