First Aid Training for Ofsted reg - who pays?

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Just wondering from those of you have experienced this pls.

The course I intend to do is the same cost as it was 3 years ago. I have lovely employers who would probably pay if I asked but I'm not sure if this is standard protocol or if I'd be taking the mickey.

They do pay for the actual Ofsted registration while I pay for the insurance.

Nanny in my view. It is part of Continuing Professional Development.

You would have first aid training even if you were not registered, wouldn't you?

Fair point but they're the ones that get the tax perk. Just seems such a grey area, as does everything when it comes to nannying it seems ie net/gross salary.

Doesn't seem that anything re: nanny employment is really set in stone like it would be if you were employed by a company with an HR dept.

We split it 50:50

Also you're not doing first aid for their tax benefit surely? You should keep yourself up to date anyway.

Yep I absolutely would do it for myself. I even have a first aid app on my phone and a first aid kit in the car.

I was speaking to other nannies and it is such a mixed concensus.

I have paid for my Nanny, plus their insurance, reg fee and DBS check.

However, this was due to a complete lack of OFSTED registered Nannies in my area, and persuading an old childcarer to register and work for me.

I need the 70% rebate via tax credits and therefore I have swallowed the costs.

How much is the course? The one I have booked for next week is only £40.

In my area, with St John's it is £126 inc Vat for the 12 hour paediatric first aid. Shorter courses can be done, a 6 hour course suitable for Ofsted registration costs £84 via Tigerlily.

£40 sounds cheap to me... check it meets the requirements that Ofsted publish (see page 27 of Ofsted Guide to Registration Childcare Register).

'Nanny in my view. It is part of Continuing Professional Development'

It's absolutely part of CPD, which in any other job would be funded by the employer. Why are nannies different?

My employers paid for mine. They've also paid for me to do a few courses with MNT. They get CPD in their jobs, no reason I shouldn't in mine. I'm an employee.

In the past I've split it 50/50. I've never paid the full amount and would not be keen on employers who wouldn't contribute at all.

Nannynick, it's run by the local Pacey group. 12 hours. It's the course recommended by the County lady who coordinates the childminding registration.

Local pacey group got a good price. They will have found a trainer who can do all that is needed for childminder registration, so fine for nanny.

It is questionable who pays, up to each nanny/employer to discuss.

No I always pay for my own. Surly you need it to validate your insurance?

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My bosses have always paid for registration/insurance/DBS/first aid

OutragedFromLeeds, you're sorely mistaken if you think the NHS pays for any CPD for their employees! I have to do a minimum of 50 hours CPD a year and pay for all of it from my own pocket. I get 12 hours paid "study leave" per year but no help with course fees

Personally I feel the nanny should as they need an up to date first aid regardless if ofsted

I did the TIGERLILY 6hr one for £80ish and is fine for ofsted of needed to be

Komso - as lovely as you are paying for nanny insurance - the nanny needs to as if you ever needed to claim off it - you tech would be suing yourself via the paperwork and they may not pay out

Again I feel that any professional nanny would have insurance - it's £80ish a year - price of a large g&t a month :)

I (employer) have always paid for first aid ofsted crb and also paid for the childcare course. It's my tax perks so why should the nanny pay!?

As a nanny myself first aid i see as my responsibility but being ofsted registered is to benefit both employer and nanny as employer gets the perks ect but nanny is then more desirable if you were to move on to other families. I always offer to split the registration 50:50. I had it written in the contract that we would split the registration and then renewal each year.

'OutragedFromLeeds, you're sorely mistaken if you think the NHS pays for any CPD for their employees!'

That must be regional because I have several family members/friends who work in the NHS and all necessary courses (first aid, fire safety, child protection, IT training etc.) are paid for. Any training not necessary, but to further their career, they can apply for funding, you may not always get it.

nationally as a doctor whilst you may get fire training included if you're a hospital employee all other CPD is done at the doctors expense

None of the people I know are doctors, so I'll take your word for that. It's certainly not an overall NHS policy that essential, employer-required training (which first aid is for nannies) is paid for by the employee. The people I know within the NHS are all on the non-medical side, so maybe that makes a difference?