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More than one nanny job, employed / self employed... Help please!

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BellaTata · 08/01/2014 19:41

Okay, I am a nanny and I have just started a new job for 4 days a week, the family are paying my taxes. I have been offered a weekend nanny job, which I could really do with taking, to save for the rest of a morgtage deposit, however the weekend family require me to be ofsted registered and my main family don't.

How do i go about it all, OFSTED, childcare vouchers, tax etc? Can i be paid with vouchers from a family if i am not 'employed' by them and do my own taxes for a second job? Can I aslo be paid with childcare vouchers for ADHOC babysitting?

Also, roughly how long does OFSTED registration take?

TIA

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nannynick · 08/01/2014 21:21

Ofsted registration:

Can take a month to several months - length of time varies.
You need to have suitable training - do you have a childcare qualification? If not, have you completed a Common Core Skills course?
You need to have paediatric first aid.
You need to have nanny insurance.
You will have a DBS check done as part of the process, this is now an additional charge... around £54 I think (plus you then may want to pay for the yearly update service, which will increase the cost).
Ofsted registration I think is still £103 a year.

If you are running your own business you can decide to accept payment however you wish. However depending on fee charged it may take a few evenings babysitting to build up to the voucher amount.

The weekend nanny job and ad-hoc babysitting are different things.

The frequency of the work, the amount of control the parents have, and other factors may determine if you are an employee.

HMRC Status Team may be worth a call to confirm they feel that what you are proposing to do for this 'client' would fall under running a business and not employment.

Without knowing a lot more about what you are meaning by "weekend nanny job" it is very hard to say.

BellaTata · 09/01/2014 08:36

Hi Nick, thank you for your reply. With regards to the weekend job it would be as and when the mum has work and if i can do the days needed, it would be 10 - 12 hours per day. Can I be both employed with my current family, and then self employed for my second job? I would also have other ADHOC babysitting jobs.

TAI

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BellaTata · 09/01/2014 08:37

Also I have been OFSTED registered before so just need to update CRB and registration.

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Blondeshavemorefun · 09/01/2014 10:20

yes you can be employed and self employed at the same time

when it comes to filling in tax, you put what you have earnt via employed gross, then what you have earnt se gross, then expenses for se work and they then work out what tax you need to pay on your se wages - which will be wages - expenses =amount - tax you have paid in employed job = tax you need to pay from se job

sounds complicated but they do it all if do online :)

BellaTata · 09/01/2014 10:42

Thank you for your help, i can't make head nor tails of the website. One last question, is there a certain amount I can earn tax-free when being self employed? My rough salary would be 18,000 - 19,000 employed, then 5000 (give or take a couple of hundred) with my self employed jobs.

TAI

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nannynick · 09/01/2014 11:07

Yes you can have a job plus be self employed running your own business.

Make sure you understand about class 2 and 4 national insurance, profit loss accounts, income tax on profits. Remember your first job (if paying over 10k) will use all you personal tax allowance.

nannynick · 09/01/2014 11:10

Personal allowance is 9440 and will go up to 10,000 in April I think. So all would be used by your employed job.

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