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Nanny - i want to work but mboss says no

21 replies

HeartbrokenHateLife · 06/01/2014 08:27

One of the families I work for has a newborn baby so she's ultra careful on germs etc

I've got a chesty cough but was still happy to work - I told her this yesterday.

She's asked me not to come in which i think is fair enough. I understand why

I feel I should be paid for today as i was happy to work - how can I approach this

OP posts:
Katiejon · 06/01/2014 11:56

What does your contract say?

stinkingbishop · 06/01/2014 12:00

Do you have sick leave in your contract?

Original poster
HeartbrokenHateLife · 06/01/2014 12:01

Only just started with them & no contract

OP posts:
Blondeshavemorefun · 06/01/2014 12:13

Hmmm tricky - tech you should be paid as willing and able to work and mb has said no

And sort out a contract

oscarwilde · 06/01/2014 14:16

Raise the subject if you are not paid for the day. Technically you were available to work, you could have worn a face mask or got on with other tasks like washing etc.
Make sure your contract is explicit that you will be paid.

nannynick · 06/01/2014 15:01

Start things as you mean to go on. They have decided that you are not to come in so pay as usual.

You need a contract, ideally before starting as it can help to make it clearer with regard to this sort of thing.

Suggest mum talks to payroll provider about contract and of course to join mumsnet and get our collective wisdom on all aspects of employing a nanny.

BrandyAlexander · 06/01/2014 18:23

My kids and dc have had norovirus in last few days. Following 48 hour rule, I asked our nanny not to come in today so we don't give it to her. I wouldn't dream of not paying her for the day! At worst (if I needed her to do so, but I don't), I would want to take it out of her holiday entitlement - she would still get paid though.

Unexpected · 07/01/2014 14:36

Why do you not have a contract? Have you even had sight of one? Otherwise, how do you know what your terms and conditions are?

grabaspoon · 07/01/2014 20:32

Why should it come out of holiday Novice?

CapeCornwall · 09/01/2014 11:45

novice I would be just as cross if you decided to not use my service when willing to work and took it from my holiday allowance!

EasterHoliday · 09/01/2014 11:48

What if you fancied going to Legoland for a day in the middle of the week and therefore didn't need her? would you expect her to take that unpaid?

how about if your boss didn't have any work for you to do tomorrow - would you be happy if they told you to stay home unpaid? these aren't zero hours contracts and just because nothign is written down, doesn't mean there's a contract.
(my own employer shuts down between christmas and new year. regardless of the number of days involved, we are all obliged to take 3 days of our holiday entitlement to cover that period however our annual allowance is adjusted upwards in the first place so that new starters have 24 days / year. And we get advance notice of the fact in our contract)

ChippingInWadesIn · 09/01/2014 11:48

You are well enough and willing to work, she has chosen to ask you not to, therefore she pays you as normal. However, she hasn't said she wont, so why are you worrying about it? Do they not seem like fair & reasonable people (money/contract wise - rather than PFB wise)?

Get a contract sorted out quickly - you can do it, you don't need to wait for them to do it.

AmandaCooper · 15/01/2014 08:00

Tbf the agreement with our nanny on holiday is that she nominates half the days and we nominate the rest - which I think is pretty standard? So while it would be short notice, legally there's no reason why we couldn't ask her to take holiday in these circumstances. I wouldn't though, as I like having her!

eeyore12 · 15/01/2014 08:36

She should pay you and even if it comes out of holiday (their choice of days not yours) you would still be paid for it. And then if they end up having more holiday days than their half you should still be paid for the extra time off as available to work but their choice to go away/not need you.

Onefewernow · 15/01/2014 08:44

I has nannies when the kids were small. OF COURSE we paid if we asked then not to come. It is their income! You can't expect someone to make themselves available and not pay.

bbcessex · 16/01/2014 18:34

Hmmm.. I would say it depends how bad your cough really is... Just because you 'want to work' doesn't mean you're not sick.. Stretching it, you could have diarrhea (sp) and 'want to work' but that doesn't mean boss should let you.

If you are employed to look after a newborn and have a chesty cough bad enough for MB to notice / be concerned then I can totally see her point.

That said.. You should then be formally off sick, and subject to the sick pay or statutory sick pay terms as per contract.

Not having a contract or understanding of the terms is your main problem, imo, and I would address that asap.

justfishing · 17/01/2014 21:19

I think this depends on how bad your cough is. Arguably if you are in a situation where you are looking after young children and your condition may make them ill you aren't fit for work

foreverondiet · 20/01/2014 18:19

They should def pay. Treat this as a lesson and sort out contact for future misunderstandings!

justfishing · 20/01/2014 21:43

Agree that she needs to sort out contract forever, but don't agree that she was necessarily fit to do her job

justfishing · 20/01/2014 21:48

Dont know why this says forever. Should have said to sort out contract urgently

foreverondiet · 20/01/2014 23:54

Well I pay full pay even if nanny is sick (within reason)so same outcome. I just meant she needed to discuss all this with employer and get agreement.

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