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What counts as fulltime employment (nanny)?

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PineappleLump · 19/11/2013 09:31

We are looking to have a nanny for 12 hours a day, Monday to Thursday, so 48 hours a week.

I can't seem to find anything which tells me whether this is full time or part time for the purposes of calculating holiday pay. 48 hours a week suggests to me that this full time but I just wanted to check.

Does anyone know?

thanks

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eeyore12 · 19/11/2013 09:39

I would work out holiday as 4 weeks x 4 days so 16 days plus any bank holidays that would be normal working days so 4 Mondays plus this year Christmas boxing and new year so 7 in total so in total 23 days a year al, as the entitlement for a 5 day working week is 28 days they are only missing 5 (good Friday and 4 weeks x 1 day). You can of course offer more but I would say 23 days is the min you can offer.

nextphase · 19/11/2013 09:50

Part time for that purpose - if you gave her 20 days holiday, someone working 5 days/week would get 4 weeks off. Yur nanny would get 5 weeks off.

I'd suggest either working it out what you want to give as hours of holiday, or weeks of holiday, and then convert back to her working week.

NomDeClavier · 19/11/2013 10:22

It's part time.

The statutory allowance is 28 days/5 day week which is counted as full time (unfortunately it doesn't go up if you work 6). So for your nanny it's 22.4 days which takes into account Bank Holidays and you can round up but not down. You can also express it in hours if you prefer but as she tends to work full days that's of limited use!

Don't use the 4 weeks plus 'bank holidays normally worked' method. It might give you the same answer Mon-Thurs but if you ever changed her days it wouldn't be right. The law prevents discriminating against PT employees in this way because the majority of Bank Holidays fall on Mondays so someone who works Monday is better off than someone who doesn't.

Cindy34 · 19/11/2013 11:56

5.6 weeks is 5.6 weeks regardless of hours worked, isn't it?

So as others have said, min holiday is 5.6 x hours worked per week. That will give you calculation in hours. If each day worked is the same number of hours and if holiday is taken in whole days, then it can be said to be a certain number of days. However if nanny took 1/2 a day holiday at some point then that would be done as hours. Hope that makes sense.

When I applies for a mortgage I was told that they would accept 35+ hours per week as being full time employment. Not sure how they come up with that figure or why they even need to note if someone is working what they consider is full or part time but then maybe that's just how the mortgage lenders do things.

With regard to bank holidays, only those that fall on a working day would come off the holiday allowance, if you were insisting that those are taken as holiday. Some are fixed days of the week, others vary, so check dates for the next few years (gov.uk lists the dates I think) to see which ones will be on your nannies working days.

NannyLA · 19/11/2013 14:28

I am a nanny working 4 days a week ( Mon - Thurs ) 40 hours a week. My holiday allowance is 22 days. I also have all bank holidays off paid. I usually end up with a bit more if the family go way more. But that is the legal, minimum amount of annual leave. My employers company worked it out like that.

You can also look at it on www.gov.uk/holiday -entitlement.

Hope this helps!

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