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Paid childcare

Discuss everything related to paid childcare here, including childminders, nannies, nurseries and au pairs.

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Am I being ripped off?

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NannyMcphee12 · 08/10/2013 09:15

Spoke to a lady yesterday who's interested in me as a nanny

She wants mon-fri 9am-6pm care for a 4 month old baby. She's wanting to pay £800 net per month

I am Ofsted registered, qualified, crb checked & first aid trained with 1 years experience as a nanny

Am i being ripped off? The thought of £800 a month sounds good as I've been without a job for months.

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eeyore12 · 08/10/2013 09:26

Using mr anchovys calculator that works out at £3.82 a hour gross well below minimum wage!!!!! £978 would be the min net wage for someone aged 18-20 and it would be £1167 net for s

eeyore12 · 08/10/2013 09:27

Someone aged over 20 so she is looking to pay nearly just over £350 net a m

eeyore12 · 08/10/2013 09:28

Sorry silly phone

Month less than min wage, that is if it is live out post.

Suggest you show her the min wage guidelines and if you are happy with those then agree that but I would look for nearer at least £7 gross a hr.

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NannyMcphee12 · 08/10/2013 09:29

How did you get £3 something gross an hour?
I just looked and £4.05 or £37 a day

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IrisWildthyme · 08/10/2013 09:30

Assuming that they are not intending to fiddle the tax man and will be sorting out all the PAYE and NI contributions correctly, £800 net per month is approx £13,900 per year gross salary.

Assuming you'd be getting approx 4 weeks paid leave per year, that is £6.44 per hour - only just above minimum wage - because that's a 45 hour working week you've got there which is pretty tough!

It's a bit of a better deal if you are getting meals, accommodation or any other perks with the job. However, it's pretty low really.

But if you don't have any other options, it's better than nothing isn't it? I'd keep looking though if I were you.

lovelynannytobe · 08/10/2013 09:30

It's around £4.25/h gross. If it's live out it is illegal as it is below NMW. Maybe she's not aware she needs to pay at least NMW.

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NannyMcphee12 · 08/10/2013 09:31

It's a live out job.

Think I may give this one a miss

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NannyMcphee12 · 08/10/2013 09:32

When I spoke to her I said that it's very low for a nanny and she said her maternity nanny took that pay!

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IrisWildthyme · 08/10/2013 09:32

Weird how many different calculations there are for what £800p/m net is equivalent to as an hourly wage!

IrisWildthyme · 08/10/2013 09:39

(just looked at mine again and realised I got a few bits wrong!
My new calc comes out at £4.42 p/h gross - WELL below NMW

sorry!)

Blondeshavemorefun · 08/10/2013 09:41

Totally ripped off and illegal as under nmw

She wants to pay £4.25gross

That under £10k gross a year

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NannyMcphee12 · 08/10/2013 09:43

Thanks a all. I knew my instinct was right.

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IrisWildthyme · 08/10/2013 09:50

Good luck in the job hunt. For that length of working week you should be asking for about £1150p/m net (minimum wage would be around £1050p/m net but you have skills, experience and training!) The right job will come by sooner or later...

eeyore12 · 08/10/2013 10:18

Sorry yes £4.25 was doing a 50 hr week. Was trying to do it while cuddling my little one to sleep after a long night!

ChippingInNeedsSleepAndCoffee · 08/10/2013 10:39

Would you be taking DD with you?

nannynick · 08/10/2013 10:42

I get £4.25 gross per hour, based on 45 hour week, 944L taxcode.

With listentotaxman I can get it to £191.80 per week gross, so £4.26 per hour.

It is strange how there are different figures but then maybe not that surprising as it is doing Net to Gross which is a bit of a pain and not an exact science.

Surprised that a maternity nurse would do £800 a month, maybe they did not do many hours.

Move on, find employers who talk Gross and talk reasonable salary. Given you do not have much experience you may start quite low, maybe as low as £7 gross an hour but it depends on location. I would say aim for £8 gross, higher if in a city. If you have lots of other childcare experience then aim higher still.

Karoleann · 08/10/2013 14:55

I think you're near me (we're near beaconsfield) and that's ridiculously low for the area. I pay my 17 year old after school mother's help 7/hour. Most of the nannies at school are on £12/gross per hour.

I'm amazed you haven't found something yet.....are you looking to bring your own child with you, or do you not have a car, or are you only looking for full time?
I'm more than happy to have a look at your cv (I've done lots of recruitment before) you can pm me and I'll send you my email address.

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NannyMcphee12 · 08/10/2013 18:26

I drive, have no children, am pretty flexible & happy to travel.

Full time would be best but I'm willing to take part time

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Karoleann · 09/10/2013 12:17

Received pm - will have a look!

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 10/10/2013 19:15

Maternity nurse was probably doing very different hours, was maybe living in and I guess wouldn't have had sole care, which might make a difference too.

It's worth talking to her about the NMW stuff as I'm sure she won't get anyone at that rate!

Blondeshavemorefun · 10/10/2013 20:17

Mat nurses earn anything from £150/200ph 24hrs

So maybe she had one for one night a week for a month

Or £800 is a weeks pay for one !!

Don't give up. Something will turn up

I get a lot of temp work through TINIES emergency care - are you with them?

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