nannying with my own children

[nearlymumofone]

A job has potentially fallen into my lap of part time nannying, I have two dcs of my own 1&3 which I will bring while I nanny. How does this affect what I charge? I am in the London (ish) area within M25. I have never done nannying before (but am entering ito it as my job doesn't pay enough to put my own children into childcare!!).

Hours i believe will be 7-7.

thank you

I guess around £10/h gross maybe less as you will be bringing two children yourself. It is whatever the family is willing to pay you ... you don't charge them. They are employing you and paying wages.

Normal range for London is about £11-13 gross per hour.

If you have no relevant qualifications or nannying experience (though obviously you have experience with your own) then you're probably looking at £9-11 gross ph.

Bringing your own two children as well will typically reduce your wage by about 20%, so probably £7-£9 gross ph is reasonable. If they really want you they may be willing to pay more, some families will pay going rate to a nanny who brings their own child.

When my nanny had a baby, we did not reduce her hourly rate when she came back with her child. We ended up having some issues, not so much when her baby was tiny but more when he hit toddler stage, and I regretted that I had not reduced the pay because I felt there were things causing me resentment (in terms of attention my children were getting) that I may have been ok with if there had been an express acknowledgement (including in terms of salary) that I was no longer getting what I had previously paid for.
Some people will say that you should treat as a nanny share, but I do not think that is right either. I think a pay reduction of around 20-25% is about right compared to what you would get if you did the job without bringing your children. I don't know what the full time salary is for a full time inexperienced nanny these days, but that should be easy enough to find out from agencies, by looking at adverts etc, and then discount that my 20-25%

What are the parents offering to pay?
Consider how you will manage things, such as transporting all the children. What happens if the parents want their children to do an activity but you don't want your children to do it.

Do you really want to take your children to the other families house for 7am each morning? Does the family live very close to you?

Are any of the children school aged, go to same school?

You need to take a longish term view on this as your 3yo is coming into EYE funding and will be going to school. How will that balance with what the other family need? You may end up needing to pay for childcare for DC1 if you can't do school runs.

I suspect you're looking around £8/9ph gross if you've never nannied before and are bringing your own children, but bear in mind you might need to budget for some additional costs.

Do the family expect you to do any training eg First Aid? Register with OFSTED?

Will you transport the children in your car? Is it big enough for all the necessary car seats? Can you afford to pay the additional insurance you'll need? Not nanny insurance btw, although you'll need that as well, but the insurance on your car.

Another thing to consider, unrelated to the pay, is will you be working for a friend? You say it fell into your lap which implies to me that you already know this family socially. Are you going to be able to manage being their employee as well, especially when it impacts negatively on your own DC because your employers' DC will need to come first when working.

I would say it is quite rare for someone to nanny with their children when they have never nannied before.

If your one year old wants your attention all day yet your employers want you to work with their child carefully on maths/ homework how would you do it?

If your employers childs gets invited to a party what would you do with yours? (Seeing they aren't invited)

If your child is ill do you have someone to look after them? ( baring in mind most 'experinced' nannies will have taken maybe 2 days sick in 5 years, you can't really stay home with them)

Is your car big enough? Twin prams?

7am-7pm is long with own as means you will need to wake them around 6-6.30am, and won't be home until after 7pm min so late bedtime with early rise may be an issue.

Will you get insurance/ first aid/ ofsted etc beforehand

im surprised you got a nannying job taking two. im not in London but im on £8 Gross for my first job back with dd. Two years on my 2nd job is £9 gross but ive attained extra qualifications and experience.

You will need to seriously consider the practicality of preschool when yours reaches that age. At the minute my dd is same age as my charge and we have strong relationships weve built with the families friends so they welcome us all to parties etc but I think you're new boss will be dealing with alot on inflexibility and you should expect your wage to reflect that. You've been very very lucky.

oh and yy to the long days. I work 7:30-6 with an hours travel either way and it is very hard going on my dc.

Maybe childminding would be more appropriate and workable.