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Anyone else found there's hardly any nanny jobs?

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NannyMcphee12 · 01/08/2013 10:40

Really upped my job search & there seems to be hardly any full time jobs!

Anyone else found this?

Some one please tell me it will pick up soon

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lovelynannytobe · 01/08/2013 11:22

I hope so ... I've been looking for the last three months and not found anything suitable. Most are just before and after school so literally a couple of hours a day ... not enough income to support my family unfortunately.

Wendy555 · 14/10/2013 16:09

I am registered with 8 agencies and I am still struggling to find a full-time job. I see lots of full-time jobs but I never seem to hear from anyone.

Callaird · 14/10/2013 16:58

I'm glad it's not just me!

I've been looking for about 4 months and there is nothing about. The few I have applied for have not even gone to interview. I was beginning to think there is something wrong with me!

I've just applied to work part time at my local shop, I'm getting that desperate! Luckily most places are taking on Christmas staff so hopefully I'll get something.

Good luck, I hope we all find something soon (as long as it's not the job I want!!!)

Antidote · 14/10/2013 17:03

Well I'll be looking for someone in about 8 months time. Full time, live in or out, baby (9 months)and 3 year old.

Only problem, it's in Cornwall.

Blondeshavemorefun · 15/10/2013 00:42

def less nice jobs about that pay enough for me to live on

lots of before/after school or jobs that parents want blood or want the experience of an older nanny but want to pay a much lower wage

oscarwilde · 15/10/2013 17:07

I'll be looking for someone in the spring (SE London) but to be honest, the cost is crucifying. I can see why the market is drying up. If the government would allow for childcare to be tax deductible (or a pre-tax cost) it would make a huge difference. Childcare vouchers don't touch the sides unfortunately!

We haven't given our current nanny a payrise in 2.5 yrs (or received one ourselves) which I feel terrible about as she is great (but wants to return home).

Blondes, ALL - what would you consider a reasonable gross salary for 8am-6.30pm x 5 days a week? In SE London, live out, with driving licence, for two children 1 & 3.5 yrs.

Blondeshavemorefun · 15/10/2013 17:18

personally i would want £13 gross but im veeeeeeeeeeeery old and experienced which would work out just under £40k including employers ni which is just under £4k Shock so gross for nanny £35.5k

still think employers ni is wrong and sure have asked before but whats the point of it, why do they have to pay it? what benifits do the employers get for paying it as the nannies dont get any perks from it

but thats a HUGE salary - tbh i only work 3 days generally so when i ask for that figure it doesnt seem so bad as just over £20k

£2an hour less gross ie £11 takes it down by £5k a year

Helspopje · 15/10/2013 17:22

interesting
our dd's keyworker wants to work with us. it will be her first nannying job but she has level3 childcare from her time in nurseries. She is requesting £8net (which seems lower end of the wage range) so not v sure what on earth that would be gross as surely it would vary based on her tax code?

Blondeshavemorefun · 15/10/2013 17:43

on a normal 944l tax code thats £12.25 gross so just over £28k gross plus just under £3k employers so using wonderful mr A's paye thats just under 331k gross all in

so a good deal imho

Blondeshavemorefun · 15/10/2013 17:44

so make sure you discuss gross, tbh im surprised someone working in a nursery has said nett

Blondeshavemorefun · 15/10/2013 17:44

ahhhhhhhh fat fingers £31k gross

OutragedFromLeeds · 15/10/2013 18:05

£8 net is £9.78 gross on a normal tax code.

Always agree a gross wage.

Blondeshavemorefun · 15/10/2013 20:32

£10.25 - god i cant type today for toffee Blush but i based that on the hours of other post ie 52.5

problem is with nett is that the more hours the nanny does the higher the gross wage is, hence why you can get stung if discuss nett

so 8nett for a 3day 10hr job would be £9.11 gross but for say a 5 day week and 50hrs would be £10.17gross so over a £1 more ph iyswim

so always discuss gross

cinnamondanish · 15/10/2013 20:43

Have you tried looking for two jobs together on a share basis? Where I live (North London) this is common practice as the nanny can still get a good salary and the families halve their costs.
My two eldest charges were going to be in school full time from Sept so I found a share with a family who had one toddler and merged the two jobs on a share basis. Amongst my nanny circle of friends lots of them are working for two separate families either on a daily share basis or a split week basis.
I also found local sites like netmums, mumsnet, gumtree, nannyjob and nannyshare really helpful as it cuts out the middle man as a lot of parents don't want to go through agencies as they are expensive.

NomDeClavier · 15/10/2013 21:19

Ehhhhh nannies don't get the benefit of employer contributions? That all feeds into the pot for SMP, SSP, pensions and so on. Just employee contributions wouldn't cover the cost of those payments so the burden is split between employer and employee.

That's not to say there shouldn't be an exemption for small employers. Except, wait, there is one but the Govt chose to not let it apply to nanny employers.

constantlystartingadiet · 15/10/2013 21:26

I found since I left my last nanny job of 8 years and moved out of London there is hardly anything, now found a supermarket job, there are jobs in my area advertising to pay £3- £5.00 per hour which clearly is not even min wage, that is on Gumtree though.

Loosingthebigkickers · 16/10/2013 12:08

antidote where is cornwall?

Loosingthebigkickers · 16/10/2013 12:09

in..not is!

LifeTooShort · 29/10/2013 19:24

I'm amazed you guys are struggling to find jobs. When I was looking for a live in nanny a few months ago, I was registered with loads of agencies and they couldn't find me anyone who was well qualified. Our previous nanny gave us rave reviews, we offered fabulous self-contained en suite accommodation, an almost new car, salary of £450 net per week (top of the market for live in in London), 3 year old twin DDs thrown in for free, but the agencies were all telling me that their best candidates only wanted to work in tube zones 1 & 2 and wouldn't be willing to come out to lowly zone 5. We can be in the West End in 20 minutes and I do the commute myself every day.

LovelyNanny26 · 29/10/2013 20:43

For me it was completely opposite. I had lots of interviews.I have found a full time nanny job in a weej and a half. Living in London definitely helps.

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