cost share for nanny share

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hi just looking for the usual state of play.
we will be sharing a nanny with another family. we have 2 children they have one. nanny will work from our house.
what would you expect the split to be for the nanny's hourly rate?

thanks for replies!

I believe you would split her tax code. agree an hourly rate and split per child?

Split per family not child. That's what the advantage off a nanny is, so two families. Not 3 children. If someone has a child later on then the split stays the same.
Usually add 20% to what a regular nanny would get in your area ( as nanny share more awkward due to holidays and 2 families to please rather than one). Then half

So net say £12, approx £15 gross.

Works out £7.50-8 per hr per family depending on exact tax and employers ni

Also if always at yours maybe the other family pays a contribution towards food expenses for nanny and their child plus consider you will pay all the extra electric/ heating on all day in comparison. Maybe come to a monthly arrangement to cover all.

There is no standard way to do it, in your situation I would split it 60/40. I think the fairest way is to pay per child, so you pay 2/3 and they pay 1/3, but as you'll be hosting the share and paying for food etc for the other child I think it's fair to reduce your share slightly.

I don't think you need to offer anywhere near 20% above normal wages, not in this job market.

Another thing to bear in kind - will the nanny be doing 'nursery duties'? Children's washing, changing beds etc - only the host family would get the benefit of that.

Outraged - the job market is very good IMO for nannies atm ( in London anyway).
So my point is if there's one family with 3 children offering x amount or a nanny shre with same number of children pffering same amount but 4 parents to be involved with and two sets of ideas as to how they want their child raised etc . Then they are likely to pick the first option.

Why make more work for yourself if it isn't needed ( ie both jobs sound good, nice family etc). The decision point would come over working for one v two families.

I think 20% more is still valid. Although nbee makes a good point over things like nursery duties. If only at one house then only one family will benefit from extra homemade food for children, children's beds and laundry, play things tidied.. So maybe 60/40..

thanks for the replies. I was thinking 60/40 for the reasons raised. we can't afford 20% extra so will have to see if we can get standard rate. we did before in share when just 1 child each. pushing it as it is as we aren't sharing every day. due to age of my dd when I return to work and allergies not happy with nursery or cm options so yes I know we have to pay extra for nanny but only have so much cash :(

'Outraged - the job market is very good IMO for nannies atm ( in London anyway).'

I think you're wrong, but we can agree to disagree . There have been a few thread about this over the last couple of months though, a few from nannies who just can't find work. I know personally a nanny who tried to join a London agency and was told they're not taking anyone else on because they have far too many nannies and far too few jobs!

mmm I know several nannies doing shares (in London), all at the standard rate, so you should be fine as long as you make the 'sharing' as easy for the nanny as possible e.g. sorting holidays with the other family, deciding what you want between you and not putting the nanny in the middle etc.

thanks outraged. yes we have shared before and agreed holidays in advance and have very similar parenting ideas and look after each others children. the kids have known each other since they were born and are like brother and sister so should be as easy a share as poss

now for finding one!

Have to agree with forever that the hassles of a share generally mean you earn slightly more - not tons but a bit more

4 parents to please - holidays are harder to sort out and one friend of mine does a share but one family go away a lot as pre school so take weeks off here and there but she still works for the other family so not a perk for her

Unusual to have a share in one house only so yes discuss extra costs like food heating etc

Plus if you went away and other family didn't then assume the nanny would go there

Are you saying the share ie both families would never be in other house?

Outraged - I would get your friend to look at other Agnecies tbh. We can agree to disagree but I have had Agencies calling me recently asking if I'm available ( havent been to them in 3 years as in a permenant position), and then asking me if I know anyone/ can send anyone to them. These are what I would say the top 5 agencies in london.
Not sure why others sending people away.

Away from agencies I can think of 5 families in the area who are looking and have been asking for recommendations as agencies can't find them anyone. And like I say I'm not looking.

To op - I would just try looking a bit earlier than you maybe need just incase it takes a bit longer. Could you start someone a few weeks early maybe if you found the right person. Good luck

I find that in a share situation like described with one family having 2 children and the other family just with one child that it is usual to do a 60/40 ratio split rather than a straight 50/50 split of the gross salary.
Also if the venue is not alternating and one family always hosts the nanny share and the other share family has to always drop their child off and pick it up, then this hassle factor offsets things like heating and lighting.
I also find that nannies expect to get £2 net an hour more working for 2 families together than they would get working for just one family. The job is definitely not the same as working just for one family - juggling with the needs, opinions, lives of two sets of parents is very different from just one set and the nanny (and families) need to understand that for the share to work well.

forever luckily she managed to find a lovely job through word of mouth so she's ok now. I wonder if it's varying from one area to another? All the nannies I know work in West London, some quite central, some out as far as Richmond, all finding the same problem.