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CM Club - A WWYD - I've just seen another childminders husband do the school run?

43 replies

Booh · 08/02/2013 09:23

And before you say it, no he is not her assistant!

This isn't the first time, I saw him yesterday too, but he was driving them to the school. More often than not he has two little ones in a double buggy (neither child are his) and two school aged children (one is his)

WWYD? I'm reluctant to report it to Ofsted as the childminder in question will know its me (small village) and I've already been at the end of a retaliation Ofsted complaint!

AAAAGGGGHHHHHH - Makes me so cross!!

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mrsthomsontobe · 08/02/2013 11:05

No excuse but could something have happened to the childminder (health wise/fall) tht she maybe can't get out and about with kids . And rather than not provide care at all the parents are happy for her husband to help out with school runs. Could possibly the children she minds be related to the childminder abd husband so are perfectly happy to be in his care , parents happy to.
There could be lots of possible explainations

ZuleikaD · 08/02/2013 11:26

Yes, you don't know that the parents haven't agreed to it.

HSMMaCM · 08/02/2013 11:52

If the parents have agreed and it's less than 2 hrs a day, then he doesn't need to be registered.

minderjinx · 08/02/2013 12:02

There are all sorts of other valid explanations, but how do you know he has not registered as her assistant? With the new certificates, there is now nothing about assistants shown on the OFSTED website, so how can you be sure? (My DH is my assistant but I don't know how a stranger would find that out)

HSMMaCM · 08/02/2013 12:09

My DH was registered in his own right for years, but we didn't tell anyone. He was my backup.

Becp · 08/02/2013 12:37

My son (18) is registered as my assistant, I only used him if weather is really bad & I wanted to leave him with little ones while I did school run. No one other than parents would know this though really. Do you think he is unsuitable to be doing the school run? That is a different matter if you're worried about the safety of the children you should report it to ofsted.

ReetPetit · 08/02/2013 12:53

maybe he has just registered as her assistant? maybe he has registered himself? could you not ask her?

poachedeggs · 08/02/2013 12:59

My fabulous CM sometimes asks my permission for one of her adult daughters to stay with my DC while she does the school run, or asks if it's ok for her daughter to collect my DC while she stays home with little ones. I am completely happy with this situation.

Unless you know him to be a child-eating drunken paedophile I don't think it's a problem is it? Anyway, if you're in a small village like me, it won't exactly be a secret from the parents, will it?!

OutragedFromLeeds · 08/02/2013 13:06

If the parents have agreed to it and the children were safe and being well looked after I don't see a problem.

Strix · 08/02/2013 13:53

What business is it of yours?

If you really can't sleep (although you are a bloody nosey body if this is the case) tell the parents. And if they don't act, then I'm sure there is nothing to worry about.

I remember a time years ago when i was late from work. Childminder need to be at school for her own kids and asked if it would be okay to leave my DD with husband. I said yes fine.

Good thing you didn't find out.

Tanith · 08/02/2013 14:15

DH was once taken to task by a very officious school secretary. She accused me of being unprofessional for sending him to collect a child and absolutely refused to believe that he was a level 3 outstanding rated childminder in his own right.
It was only when she phoned ofsted to complain and they confirmed it that she grudgingly acknowledged it.

I think you need to be very sure of your facts, Op.

Maebe · 08/02/2013 14:21

How do you know he's not her assistant? And even if he isn't, the parents might well have agreed. CM could not be up to doing the school run for some reason, or might temporarily have an extra child, or many other reasons.

My CM's husband is registered as her assistant for back-up, but tbh I wouldn't mind him looking after DD while she did the school run even if he wasn't. With CMs you chose a whole family to look after your child, you accept that husbands and siblings will be around. If you didn't trust the husband, you wouldn't chose that CM. Ergo, if the husband had to look after the child for ten minutes, or do the school run, where is the problem if everyone agrees?

Booh · 08/02/2013 14:43

He is not her assistant, or registered in his own right.

I actually bumped into the childminder at toddler group ( never seen her there before). So I had to ask, and she was a bit tired and fancied a long soak in the bath....... After I'd composed myself I had to ask her what she thought OFsted would say.

Childminders want to be seen as professionals, then you see them doing things like this.

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Fightlikeagirl · 08/02/2013 14:48

My husband does this on the odd occasion but always with parents consent.
Is there really any harm in it? Why so angry about it?
Those of you who have registered others as assistants for back-up- is it quite easy to do? ( Sorry to high jack thread!)

minderjinx · 08/02/2013 14:48

Perhaps she was being sarcastic?

Booh · 08/02/2013 14:51

No she wasn't being sarcastic at all. Two other childminders were there too and heard what she said. She really saw no problem with it whats so ever.

One of her minded childrens, mums best friend was also there and heard the whole thing.......so I expect by now at least one parent knows.........

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IslaValargeone · 08/02/2013 14:54

What everyone else has said , plus you seem a bit trigger happy regarding complaining to Ofsted.

OutragedFromLeeds · 08/02/2013 14:55

If the children were safe and being well looked after and the parents consented to him picking up their children, why does it matter what she was doing?

I can't see how her being in the bath is relevant really.

OutragedFromLeeds · 08/02/2013 14:57

'so I expect by now at least one parent knows'

If the children are school age, I assume they are as they are being picked up from school, I expect all the parents know. Can all the children speak? The childminder's husband isn't invisible is he? I assume he was seen doing the pick up by other parents, children, teachers, school staff. It doesn't sound like it was a secret tbh.

Bluemonkeyspots · 08/02/2013 14:59

My husband had to take over sometimes at the start of my pg as I was throwing up so much.

It was either sit them outside the bathroom door while I threw up or let him carry on with the activity if he was home.

He has his own disclosure and the kids love him so I've never seen the problem Hmm

PositiveOutlook · 08/02/2013 18:48

Completely agree with Strix.

Booh · 08/02/2013 19:07

Well, just to update you, I've had a parent on the phone looking for a new childminder.......apparently her childminder has been leaving her child with her husband while the childminder goes to tescos, has her hair done and has been on the school run with him....Oh I wonder which childminder she was talking about...........

Mum has withdrawn the child immediately, but the childminder didn't care.......and mum will report to Ofsted along with another parent who uses this childminder. The mum is coming to see me tomorrow as she has to be at work on monday.

I used a CM, and I would be fuming if mine did it. CM moan that we get treated as baby sitters earning a bit of pin money....yet lots of you are prepared to not stick to the rules. For me an emergency is a mindee being rushed to hospital after having a fit, not being too lazy to bother doing the school run.

I'm not sure that parents using a nursery would be that impressed if half the staff didnt come in for the day and a few odd random parents stood in.

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OutragedFromLeeds · 08/02/2013 20:48

I don't believe you.

ReetPetit · 08/02/2013 20:51

that's a bit convienent for you op Hmm

Becp · 08/02/2013 20:53

Hmm not just me then...