Reduction in pay if nanny brings her child?

[goldenoldie]

What sort of deduction should I expect to make if nanny brings her own child to work with her?

I got £6 per hour (in 2002-2003)

My nanny brings her own child and I calculated her pay at 2/3 normal rate - some families use 1/2 (as it is effectively a 'nanny share' situation), but I really wanted our particular nanny and knew what she needed to earn....The last thing I wanted was for the children to get settled and then the nanny to leave as she couldn't afford to stay, or she decided to leave her baby with her mum and get a part-time job without the baby (which would pay 1/2 rate and give her time alone with her baby).

I suppose what I'm trying to say is that it depends on how much you want that nanny and how much she wants your particular job.

I think you should pay her a bit more than 50% to be fair. Normally with a nannyshare you have to coordinate and compromise with another parent. However, in the case of the nanny with child, you still have the priviledge of being sole employer. I would probably offer around 60% - 65% of what you would expect to pay a nanny who does not have a child.

Gosh, this has me thinking that a live-out nanny share is perhaps a way to make it affordable and get that spare bedroom back.... hmmm.... maybe when the kids are a bit older???

sorry-i don't understand why her pay has to be reduced because she is bringing her child along.will she only be looking after your child 50% of the time? or will she be looking after them both together? if she is looking after them both together then she is still looking after them and should be paid for that surely?

agree with alexsmum

just because she has her own child, doesn't mean she won't be looking after your's for less hours, does it?

so does that mean if a nanny starts in a one child family she gets 100% of a normal wage and if the said family have another child she gets a 50% extra wage rise .

I am currently a p/t nanny who brings along her own child. I get £7 per hour net pay and a fuel supplement on top of that. i look after a g3, b5, b7 and ds 16m. i worked for a different family before i had my child and received the same pay.

i feel there are lots of benefits to the family from me bringing ds. g3 has a playmate in the afternoon and gets to be an older sibling. she is now much more tolerent of younger children and it is a joy to watch them together.

I am not denying that the situation doesn't benefit me as i cannot afford to pay childcare and work. but i put 110 % into my job regardless of having my own child there. I think it is definately personal preference as to whether you choose to employ a nanny with their own child but i don't think they should be paid less. I think a nanny with child would be most beneficial to a family with an only child.

I think they should be paid less, as how can they pay the same level of attention to your child as they would if they didn't have their child with them? It's just about the only job where you can take your child with you, you can't expect the pay to stay the same when you are going to be putting half your effort into your own child.

i think def a reduction in pay.

but i would NEVER employ a nanny woh brought her child along as i feel if something terrible were to happen, as a mother, youd rush to your child first......what about the children you are looknig after, they will always come second.

cx

Most people feel that the ideal is a nanny without a child because it is much simpler (no worries about will the nanny favour her own child, what if her child is ill, can they go and do the same things with one extra, what about school/nursery runs etc etc) having said that a nanny with a child can be great, but probably only if you have just the one yourself, or if there is quite an age gap (our first nanny brought her little boy with her). I think that nanny with child falls between the nanny share and the solo nanny in terms of convenience, and so should have a mid way cost. If your current nanny has a baby that's a different thing because you may well accept compromises to keep her if she is good. But lets face it there are no other jobs where you could even consider bringing your child along (and if you could you wouldn't need a nanny at all!)

As a nanny of 9yrs myself, it was a natural progression to want to have a child myself, and as a mother to a 7mth old baby now i have already returned to nannying, they did not offer any less money at all. I infact interviewed for 4 positions all offering me the jobs and still on the same rate in was on before having my baby. Its an individual thing, and quite honestly i am more aware of putting the families children first as i am being paid to do it and am always treat them how i would like someone to treat my own. On quite a few occasions if i am in the middle of preparing dinner when my son needs feeding, he waits (i suppose i am v.lucky he is a good baby!) Also, with a nanny having their own child, they are more likely to go places, do activities etc..
Over the years i have seen too many singleton nannies writing great diaries for their days out, when in fact they spent most their time infront of the tv whist the nanny slept/surfed internet, or trawled them round the shopping centre!! Each to there own but i feel with the right nanny it can work!

I would certainly pay at a reduced rate, only because I would not be paying for one on one attention for my child anymore. Which I am sure if why a lot of people pay for a Nanny in the first place.

I'm sure no decent proffessional Nanny would object to this as they will know that they are very lucky to be able to take there child with them to work with them.

I would say pay at about 65%-70% of the normal wage maybe even a little lees.

CarlyP is spot on. In an emergency, any mother will save her own child first. I know I would.

Alex's mum, she should be paid less because the employer's child(ren) is getting 50% of her attention even if for the same full time schedule. Yes, this arrangement has benefits, and one of those benefits is a reduction in cost.

Thanks for all your comments.

There is a 7 year age gap between nanny's child and my youngest and she will only bring him in holidays.

But, given she will save a huge amount of money (not to mention peace of mind) not having to find/pay for childcare and the extra flexibility we are offering I think a reduction is appropriate.

I will prob. offer about £80% of what i would normally expect to pay.

Will let you know how I get on.

Hi girls - I had this discussion with a HR company I use for my business and under no circumstances was I advised to make any deductions. Unfortunately the arrangement didn't work out and if I may vouch for what CarlyP said and Uwila agreed with I can definetly say that CarlyP is absolutely right. My nanny's baby was very cross and had to be up in arms all the time so effectively I was paying nanny to mind her own child. Best of luck Goldie.

Luckily, nanny's child is school aged - so she will only bring him in school hols.

But - could be difficult if my DS1 (who is older than him) does not get on with him.

so, will you be paying a reduced rate only in school holidays??? Her child is a lot older than your child so I don't think it would effect her care of your child at all (especially when the child is not even there!)

Happymum, I'd not even thought about a reduction in term time, but now you mention it.................

May be better to set a reduced figure for the whole year rather than reducing/raising salary every couple of months.