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Excuses for Non Payment of Fees.

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mindingsaproperjob · 03/08/2012 17:16

Mindee started this week. All paperwork done etc. I charge in arears so fee due today. Prompted parent this morning when payment wasnt offered only to be told O I didnt realise I ad to pay. How much is it?

Any 1 beat that for a beltin excuse !

Payment received on pick up by the way!

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HolyOlympicNamechangeBatman · 03/08/2012 17:19
Shock
Sastra · 03/08/2012 17:22

Eh?? There must have been more to it? That's bonkers?!

Sastra · 03/08/2012 17:23

Maybe she thought it was the end of the month?

bigpaws · 03/08/2012 20:17

I could do my own thread on this one!!!
Forgotten/lost cheque book.
Waiting for new cheque book.
Didn't have time to stop at cash point (even though invoices are given a week before payment is due)!
Can't do online vouchers as hubby taken laptop to work
I've done your vouchers (erh, I've rung voucher company and you haven't you lying lady)
Did hubby give you the money? Oh, I'll have to bring it next week!
Could go on but I'll wait for someone else to comment to make me feel better!!

mindingsaproperjob · 03/08/2012 20:44

Many of them ring true with me as well.

Lost Purses
Lost Bank Card
One Parent even claimed to have been mugged after getting cash out of bank.
Bank Transfers that mysteriously get returned to the parents bank instead of landing in mine.
The list goes on.

Think I might start a sister thread on wats the most expensive thing a minded child has damaged in your setting! Ive got some brilliant examples of that as well. Lol

Wouldnt change my job for the world though just in case I come over as a moany minder !

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bigpaws · 03/08/2012 21:03

Oh, I've also had endless cheques with missing signatures etc.
Lost invoices - just to delay a few days.
Vouchers can't be printed off as I'm waiting for an ink cartridge to arrive!?!

By the way, I love my job too and I think our humour shows we don't just do it for the money (luckily!!)

lechatnoir · 03/08/2012 21:42

Out of interest, why do you (& CM's generally) charge in arrears? I've not started yet but it hadn't crossed my mind to charge anything other than monthly in advance - is this the norm?

mindingsaproperjob · 03/08/2012 22:14

Hi There. Ive always asked for payment on last day of attendance in the week or month depending on the parents circumstances. Ive been a Minder for almost 20 yrs so maybe Im a bit old fashioned but wouldnt ask for payment for work I hadnt done. Its just the way Ive always invoiced. Others will work differently.

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MUM2BLESS · 03/08/2012 22:57

I have so much lates over the years.

I should have ask for payment in advance when I first started but did not.

I eventually did with my more recent parents.

I have a late payment of £5.00. I will be introducing this in September again as an automatic thing for late payments.

Can you explain charge in arrears please lechatnoir? thanks

mindingsaproperjob · 03/08/2012 23:07

In my case I just mean Im paid at the end of the week that the childcare has taken place so this week Ive had 1 Mindee Mon Tues Weds so fees were paid on Weds and anotha Mindee Mon Tues Fri so fees were paid today. Sorry if Im confusing every1!

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MUM2BLESS · 03/08/2012 23:16

Not confusing, just did not know what it was about.

HSMM · 04/08/2012 07:17

I charge in advcnce for days contracted/ booked.

The theory is no payment = no childcare, but I'm a bit soft sometimes.

ZuleikaD · 04/08/2012 09:24

I also charge in advance for this very reason!

glenthebattleostrich · 04/08/2012 09:36

I charge in advance for booked hours, then in arrears for any extra hours if that makes sense.

One family tried to pay me half at the start of the month and then half after 2 weeks because they didn't think it was fair that I get a months pay for not doing anything. That was one of many problems with them (telling their 4 year old that they didn't need to do as I asked them if they didn't want to because I was paid by the parents and had to do what they said, regularly being late for pick up etc). They lasted 3 months before they were given notice.

Xabian · 04/08/2012 09:48

glen I too charge in advance for all booked hours and then add any extra onto the next invoice

MUM2BLESS · 04/08/2012 19:36

I understand now, thanks for that.

ManAboutTheHouse · 05/08/2012 08:16

We have one family that on average, pays late every 2 months (we charge in arrears monthly).

As my wife & I care for so many different children, we had a situation last November where 4 parents had not paid nearly 30 days after their invoices had to be sent to them, accounting for around 40% of our monthly income.

Lesson learnt, & an e-mail sent out informing all of them that with immediate effect, fees not paid in full within 10 days of the date on their invoice, results in a late fee for each day that it remains outstanding.

Those parents that had never paid late, wholeheartedly agreed with what we were doing. The others pulled rank & have never paid late since.

All except for one family, who every couple of months (& sometimes, consecutive months) end up receiving a text AND an e-mail informing them that their bill has not been paid in full by the given time, & to avoid any unnecessary late fees, that they need to settle it immediately.

Of course, this family wishes to pay some of their bill with Childcare vouchers....which as most of you know take a number of days to go through the system (as opposed to most bank transfers which now take less than a day to land in your account, thanks to 'faster payment').

This results in their following month's invoice having the previous month's late fees added to it.

The way I see it, parents that have their children cared for should be viewing us CMs in the same way that they have to account for bills they HAVE to pay monthly (utility, gym, mortgage, etc). Quite how they 'forget' mystifies me.

I prefer it when invoices are settled in full promptly because then neither my wife or I have to go through the awkward reminder process. But I'm sure any parent that frustrates a CM by paying late, would kick up a fuss if they were paid late by their own employer...

eastmidlandsnightnanny · 05/08/2012 13:55

I cant believe people pay late - actually I can beleive it but its wrong!!

Our childminder fees and nursery fees are due on 1st of month, I get paid last thurs of mth but my vouchers go in 5 days before pay day - husbands go in around same time, nursery are paid with these and childminder mix of vouchers and bank transfer and I do all on the 25/26th of the month and would never pay late -its rude and unfair.

bigpaws · 06/08/2012 08:33

I invoice during the last week of the month for the following month (in advance).
I have introduced a late payment fee of £5 per day the payment is late clearing in my account. Have had a late payer this month so I should really be firm and charge the £5. She is blaming the childcare voucher company saying she did the vouchers on the Thursday when the system is showing Monday. So annoying as the same parent is often easily confrontational.
I just think that some parents don't like paying for childcare.

NatashaBee · 06/08/2012 19:48

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bigpaws · 10/08/2012 22:21

Natasha - if that was me I would reply 'lucky you can afford a holiday'! I've had similar happen to me. A family were late paying me - yet they told me they had just booked centre parcs!!

surfandturf · 14/08/2012 18:27

I have one family who have never paid on time (contracted for monthly in advance) but they do always pay up at the and of the month so it has just naturally morphed into monthly in arrears.

One other family asked if they could pay me a month late just after Christmas as they had overspent on their Christmas budget only for me to discover that actually they were spending my wages on designer clothes in the January sales!!!

All my other families are great though so can't complain!

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