What happens in this situation?

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Nanny has X amount of holiday in their contract. Nanny picks half, family pick half.

The family 'use up' their allowance and then book an extra two weeks holiday, which they give to the nanny as extra holiday.

The nanny then books a holiday/makes plans for these two weeks.

Due to an issue at work the family then have to cancel their two week holiday (about 2 weeks before they're due to take it) and will now need childcare during those two weeks.

Is the nanny obliged to cancel their holiday/plans? Or to take it out of their annual holiday allowance (the nanny still has one week left to pick, no holiday booked for that time, but one in mind)? Do the family have to honour the holiday?

if everyone was reasonable, nanny would use one week as her holiday and then family would give her the rest unpaid including the other week she had an idea in mind for. Alternatively nanny can be given the option of cancelling her plans and family will reimburse any costs incurred as a result - that's what my employers would do if i had to cancel holiday to come in for some reason.

Family should honour. Two weeks notice its extremely unfair especially if she's made plans. You france it to her a extra holiday, that's your fault!

are you a nanny / cm, confused?
In bald terms, nanny was being given a substantial additional benefit to her employment terms because of family circumstances which have now changed. to continue to give her that unwarranted / non contractual bonus, family are going to have to go to substantial cost and administrative hell, but clearly appreciate that plans are plans.
both of them need to come to the party and if nanny stamped her foot over this, it would be very disappointing for an employer (who's probably quite p*ssed off herself about having to cancel a 2 week holiday)

I am not a nanny, but I still think the family need to honour the agreement for the extra time off, especially as plans have been made. If I were the nanny I would offer to give up the week later in the year, to take 2 weeks now, as a gesture of goodwill, as he/she will still end up with extra time off. To expect the nanny to cancel plans and just fall in with the change in circumstances is expecting too much in my opinion.

Bobbi It's a hypothetical situation between a nanny and the family that employ him/her (nothing to do with childminders).

If the family had given the nanny, for example a £100 bonus (a substantial additional benefit to her employment terms, unwarranted/non contractual) and then hit hard times do you think they should be able to ask for the money back, even if the nanny has already spent it?

wow, i think the family should let the nanny still have the 2 weeks off, how unfair would that be if she/he had planned something. If there was any chance that the employers knew they might have to cancel they should have told the nanny you MAY be able to have xxx time off. Im a nanny. Tbh i always have whatever holidays my bosses want to pick as I just fit in with them. In the situation you have said the employers used up there holiday so to be honest any extra time they say they want I think the nanny should still be paid for it. Its not the nanny's fault.

a £100 bonus is chickenfeed in terms of two additional weeks' childcare cost, it's not a substantial addt'l benefit. we're talking about more like 7x that in cost terms (if agency fee on top, 9x that). The nanny has a week's holiday remaining anyway. however if this is purely hypothetical it's all a bit of a waste of pixels anyway

Bobbi but isn't the principle the same, i.e. once you've given someone something you can't then take it back because your situation has changed?

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i think if the nanny had booked and paid for a holiday then the family should honour it

if the nanny had just had days planned out with friends etc, then it would be nice of her to agree to cancel them and work

I am a nanny Bobbi, but I would expect a similar agreement to be honoured no matter what the job was. For all we know a nanny would have booked a two week holiday to Japan or something which would also warrant sunstantial costs for her to cancel at that late notice.

Surely the family is at fault and the nanny shouldn't miss out on the time off that they gave her because of something out of her (and their control)?

If I were given two weeks off I'd probably use it to go home and spend some time with my family, that requires a hell of a lot of planning to see them all so I'd be very upset to miss that opportunity. I would probably offer to work maybe one week to even it out though.

I think it just goes to show that, as employers, you should not give extra perks you aren't absolutely certain you can deliver. Or say when you offer it that it is subject to your own plans not going pear shaped.

I think if nanny was told she had two weeks hols, and no strings were identified, then she should still be given these days.

However, if my work cancelled a holiday I had already given to my nanny, I would inform my employer that they would have a childcare bill to pay (assuming your holiday was approved at your own work).