Pos starting NNEB nanny. Do you know if I'll be able to use childcare vouchers ?

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I'm seeing a lady today who may be taking on my dd . She has agreed to do it from her own house which is what I wanted but she is NNEB trained CB checked and has paws life support training . I really like her but don't know if I'll be able to use childcare vouchers which in the long term we've only just realised after 4 dc save heaps !
TIA x

Its illegal!! A nanny cant look after a child in there own home. She needs to either register as a childminder and then you can use vouchers, but from what i've heard this could take a while. She may also need to do some other training. Or she needs to nanny for your child at your home, then become ofsted registered so she can accept your vouchers. To become ofsted registered she needs to fill out the form providing she has an in date first aid certificate, her own nanny insurance - possibly with someone like morton michel (cost her £70 per year) and her nneb qualification should be fine for it. Are you sure she is not a registered childminder, I cant believe she would agree to this if she is not, she surely knows its illegal.

No she looked after my friends little girl for 5 years from her own house and she like me was very happy that she is NNEB and first aid qualified. didn't realise it was illegal but she has made it very clear she is not a CM . I'm happy because she os such a fab person and I'm prob happier she has NNEB tbh .

NNEB is a very old qualification, are you aware of that? It was scrapped before I did my CACHE Diploma in Childcare and Education in 2001-3. This was the successor to NNEB. So her training was done before 2000- not that I would have any issue with a nanny who trained that long ago, but if this is her only qualification it seems she hasn't updated. There is a reason the qualification was scrapped, as was the one I did- society and the law moves on, big changes have occurred since her training.

You say she has life support training- I would check hard when it was done and how long the course was. If you want her to become registered to receive vouchers (illegal anyway in her own home) she would need to have an up to date paediactric first aid course of at least 6 hours for a nanny, 12 for a childminder. The certificate lasts 3 years so if it older than that then her training is out of date and worthless.

Caring for your child in her own home whilst not a registered child minder is illegal. Regardless of how lovely she is and whether she has done this before it is illegal for her to provide childcarer in her own home without being registered as a childminder. There are reasons for this! What would happen if something happened to your DD? Is this lady insured to care for children?

Childminders go through a long process to show they are up to the standards set by law- the house/flat is checked, they have policies in place for SEN, risk assessments, they provide an education. Nannies are employees and work in your home, and you employ them in a way any company would, paying tax, NI, employers NI.

I'd think long and hard about whether you really want to break the law, however lovely she is.

It's illegal.

Will the government give you a tax break to help pay for illegal childcare? No.

Does she plan to pay tax, or will you be paying her cash in hand? That's also illegal btw.

I hope someone reports her.

Why not look for a proper childminder? Is this woman so cheap that she can undercut legal childcare even if you use the childcare vouchers to pay the childminder?

I agree it's illegal what she'd doing is childminding whether she says she's not one or not, she needs to register. I hope she gets reported too, she won't be insured or doing anything proper childminders have to spend our time doing.

You can not use childcare vouchers because she is providing the care at her house, not at your house. She would fall under Childminder regulations, rather than being classed as a nanny.

So lets assume she will actually work at your home - so would be classed as a nanny. In that situation, assuming you are in England, then she could register with Ofsted on the voluntary childcare register. The NNEB is sufficient for registration if the common core part is added. The NNEB on it's own I don't think is sufficient, it may depend on the year it was done, I did mine in 1998. www.education.gov.uk/eypqd/qualification-detail-435 Example, this shows the course as being valid but shows an ! by the common core skills bit. So to me that means that common core skills should be done as an update. Common Core Skills can be done via distance learning.

I believe that Ofsted use the Qualifications Finder tool on the Education.gov.uk website to check qualifications. On that there are various courses which were by the NNEB. There are also later courses by CACHE which have NNEB in the title, as CACHE took over from NNEB in the late 90's.

Local authorities are also wanting Ofsted registered childcare providers to do a Safeguarding Children course. This is provided by the local authority and is often free. I do not know if Ofsted check that people go on this course but if your nanny did, it would help show that she is continuing her personal development and keeping in touch with latest child protection procedures.