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Attention: Childminders, help me with some questions :)

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Jennlx · 18/07/2012 14:57

We're looking for a childminder for our two children and seem sort of surprised at the attitude of those who have responded. They have been almost without exception completely inflexible in terms of fees and it has really made me wonder...

Fulltime/Sibling Discount:
I know that some CMs regard two children to look after as two children to look after, regardless of whether they're related, and that's fine. What I don't understand, from a business point of view, is why CMs wouldn't offer a discount to get the chance to look after two fulltimers (presuming they have space/inclination to look after this many children). Surely this would make their job easy - knowing that they have the stability of two full time places, instead of filling gaps with part timers? It just seems very short sighted that CMs seem to obsess over the hourly wage, when they may actually work out with same/more money if they were a bit more flexible.

Expenses:
Now, I know nothing about being self employed, but aren't a lot of things tax deductible for a CM? Petrol, food, electricity, gas, toys, sleeping equipment etc? Just curious....

I'm not trying to stir anything up, I'm just curious!! By my calculations, CMs seem to earn a really decent wage and yet I've seen lots of posts, not necessarily here, where they begrudge parents trying to negotiate fees etc. It doesn't mean they're not valued (because if you weren't, you wouldn't have a job:))), just that we don't have limitless funds! :)

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teenagersmother · 21/07/2012 18:05

I find it interesting that parents think childminders should offer sibling discounts from a business point of view. If you took two children from the same family to say a dancing class or football trainining club would you expect a discount ?
I would suspect not, as both children would be using a place and presumably there would be a limit on the number of children allowed to attend.
same with childminders. Limited places means full fee for all children....makes sound business sense to me !

msrantsalot · 21/07/2012 18:13

Ive just done my tax return for my first year I made less than £300 in wages with all the start up costs and the fact that I am self funding a nursery nurse qualification. I charge the going rate per child £3.50 per hour no sibling discount as i feel that is reasonable rate also siblings are harder as they do fight with each other more than non related children.

fudgesmummy · 22/07/2012 08:37

I offer sibling discounts. I have several sets of siblings after school and charge £2 p/h less for the older sibling. I haven't had siblings under school age for a while but in September will have a 9 mth old and 2 yr starting back when their mum returns to work after her mat leave. I have looked after the 2 yr old since she was 6 mths old including all the way through the m/l. I am charging £1 less p/h for the older child-as I will be having them for 110 hrs a month it will be a big saving for her family. Yes it would be a big chunk of income if they left but that is one of the risks of childminding

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