CMs - Anyone done an online CYPOP5 course?

[TrudiRed]

Hi. I'm just starting out and as frustrated as I can be about the lack of sense of urgency by my local authority. I am looking at being registered with Ofsted after 1st Sept so will have to have my CYPOP5 at the point of registration however no courses running around here until October which will delay my registration. I want to get going asap so was considering an online course but my local authority is trying to persuade me to do otherwise and say I will 'just have to wait'. Has anyone done an online course? Who with? How did you find it? Any advice would be gratefully received!

I did it with the NCMA - No problems, quite quick. They give you 3 months to complete it from when you start. I found the website set up a bit odd, but once you get to grips with it, it is ok. I sent in all my assignments together and they passed me with out making me re-do anything, so I was pleased.

I applied directly with Ofsted too, following advice from here, as my local authority were only offering a really slow option. I started the ball rolling in February and was registered end of April.... Am currently as full as I want to be for September and all is going really well. Good luck with it. If you need any more help, please shout or PM me.

I did mine online too, through MNT training. I think it was a bit cheaper than the NCMA one. I had 8 weeks to do it in. It wasn't very difficult at all but some of the questions were quite long. I think it took me about 40 hours to complete, doing little bits here and there in the evenings. I applied to Ofsted directly because the council was really dragging their heals.

Good luck!

Thanks ladies - its so frustrating!! I have all my forms now and don't have to do much else with the local authority thank goodness!

Not a CM but nanny and did the CYPOP5 equivalent (Common Core Skills?) through MNT, took me a few hours the night before it was due in to complete it That was enough for Ofsted reg as a nanny, not sure about the CM part, and the cheaper option considering I had already started my level 3, which I'm assuming you'll end up doing too? So you might find that route easier.

Do your LA require you to do CYPOP5 before registration?

The EYFS guidance just says you should do a course of your LA's choosing within 6 months of registering - in my area that's not CYPOP5, it's just their own LA run sessions. So we don't even need to do CYPOP 5 unless we want to.

Or at least, that was the case, unless it's now stipulated under the new EYFS.

Thats the problem Fliss - under the new rules, because I will probably be registered after 1st Sept, I have to have CYPOP5 when I register - not within 6 months. Of course if all goes well I could be registered before then, which would give me a bit of time to do it, but of course Ofsted won't commit to timescales! So basically I need to do it asap just in case! It seems like they are changing the rules but making no extra provision to those of us trying to push through on the overlap. Its just kind of tough luck that its summer and the courses have gone quiet. I think I'm going to do it online and if they won't pay for it then they won't. Its not all the world.

Yep, that's the law, but Ofsted haven't changed their forms yet.

This is a terrible mess - I can't even see that the specification of CYPOP5 meets the new requirements, but it does seem that some local authorities will accept that it does.

MrAnchovy having done CYPOP5 now, I was at the content, but that might be because having been registered for 18m it was a bit like teaching Granny to suck eggs.

Surely some basic child development training would be more useful, rather than showing we can come up with marketing ideas and the like - but then we're back to the pointless-stuff-we-do-to-comply-with-the-law thing, aren't we?!

The problem is that CYPOP5 was not designed as a stand-alone course, it is specified as an optional module in the Level 3 NVQ. Other (compulsory) modules cover the things you and I might expect related to learning and development and welfare.

The old regulations didn't pick this up, but I suspect there is a problem around the corner because the new regulations are more specific: "3A. The applicant has completed an appropriate course approved by an English local authority designed to enable the applicant to meet the EYFS learning and development requirements and the EYFS welfare requirements."