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Can you help me with how to become a nanny

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RhiRhi123 · 04/07/2012 11:13

Hi,

I would like some advice on the steps that need to be taken to become a registered nanny for my sister so that she is able to care for my daughter full-time while i am at work.

I have been on serveral sites and so far and foud out that she will need public liability insurance, a paediatric first aid course and a newly enhanced crb check.

It mentions having to have core skills can you help me with what this includes please.

Then obviously once all this is in place she can become ofstead registered.

It does say somewhere that being oftead registered is optional but this is essential so that we can claim childcare vouchers through mine and my husbands jobs. Obviously we will be paying for everything I just want to make sure it's all above board.

Is there anything that i have missed out?

TIA x

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wishiwasonholiday · 04/07/2012 11:56

I would start the process the other things can be done while waiting for crb's etc, the forms etc are on the ofsted website.

The benefit of her being ofsted registered too is that you can claim tax credits too if eligible which you can't if she isn't ofsted registered.

nannynick · 04/07/2012 12:21

I don't think your sister can register. Your daughter is her neice and therrfore falls under being a relative for purposes of childcare registration.

RhiRhi123 · 04/07/2012 12:47

Thanks for your responses - we arent entitled to tax credits and i hadn't even thought about using childcare vouchers will save a lot.

I'll have to look into that nannynick - they don't like to make it easy as i'm sure it is also illegal if i pay her directly without doing it properly and if i have to go else where for childcare i won't feel as comfortable and my sister will have no job.

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wishiwasonholiday · 04/07/2012 12:59

My friend nannies for her nephews as an ofsted registered nanny and no one has questioned it?

RhiRhi123 · 04/07/2012 13:04

Thanks Wish thats given me some hope - I don't see why it should be an issue if it's all above board - I have been doing loads of research and haven't come across anything that says relatives can't do it.

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RhiRhi123 · 04/07/2012 13:24

I have just emailed ofstead to see if they can clarify so that i have an answer 'from the horses mouth' so to speak. I just hope if i can it means i can sacrifice some of my salery for childcare vouchers. I have to work i don't have a choice (id love to be a SAHM) and i want the best for my daughter's care but it's made so difficult. U can see why so many people get caught out as there are no clear guidlines as to what's allowed.

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nannynick · 04/07/2012 13:39

As long as you are not claiming tax credits or vouchers it's not an issue.

Wish - I'm not surprised no one has checked up on it. Has there been an Ofsted inspection?

RhiRhi123 · 04/07/2012 13:51

So it is legal if I don't claim childcare vouchers?

I honestly don't know why being a relation makes a difference. I would be paying her the going rate i just trust my sister more than a stanger. It will all be done through PAYE so why should i not be able to claim just because we happen to be related?

Childcare vouchers would save me £200 pounds a month. Money i can't afford to lose.

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MrAnchovy · 05/07/2012 00:13

From the childcare vouchers guidance:

"Qualifying childcare does not include care provided by a relative
of the child in the child's own home. This includes relatives who
are registered or approved childcare providers. For these purposes
a relative means a:
? parent
? step-parent
? foster parent
? grandparent
? aunt or uncle
? brother or sister
whether by blood, half blood, marriage or civil partnership."

... so you can't claim them and there is no point in registering with Ofsted.

The reason the legislation was written this way was to avoid the tax loss from vouchers being used for the thousands of grandparents that look after their grandchildren.

wishiwasonholiday · 05/07/2012 01:52

My friend doesn't get paid by vouchers wonder if that's how she is ok to do it? She just gets paid cash but the mum does claim tax credits but that must be ok as I childmind my niece and they claim tax credits.

nannynick · 05/07/2012 07:56

Childminding is different as you run a business and care for children from multiple families. If you were to only care for children related to you and not accept unrelated children, the regulator can decide to start procedure to deregister you.

RhiRhi123 · 05/07/2012 10:49

Thanks for your advice - is it possible for my sister to still be my daughters nanny just not have to register her with ofstead?

I just want it to all be above board.

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nannynick · 05/07/2012 14:53

Yes, anyone can be a nanny. As long as you are not using Childcare Vouchers or Tax Credits it is fine.

You would be her employer in the same way as you would with someone unrelated to you. Assuming she does not live at your home, she would be entitled to minimum salary of National Minimum Wage. As an employer you have a responsibility to operate PAYE, see here. Agree a Gross salary.

RhiRhi123 · 05/07/2012 15:34

Thanks for your help

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