Childminders - Rising 5's??

[Jensmum]

I think thats what it's called!

At the moment I'm registered for 2 under fives as my dd is only 3, she attends 10 sessions at a nursery class attatched to a school can I class her as a five year old or do I have to wait until she's 4?

I think you have to wait until she in reception.

You certainly can't count her as 5 and over until at the very least she is 4. I can't remember the rules on what classes them as 5 and over?

My ds will be 3 soon. Just out of interest, when you said 10 sessions, did you mean a week i.e Morning and Afternoon sessions, 5 days a week?

Yes she does a full school day really, from 8.50am - 3pm.
She was 3 in July and then started nursery fulltime in September.
I really want (and need) to take on another child the mindees I have at the moment are only here 4 half days a week

normally if you have a 4 year old attending 10 sessions per week they can go as a 5 year old. but who knows, ofsted change the goal post when they feel like it so check and get it in writing.
sorry im on a real downer with ofsted at mo

I'm not suprised after reading your other thread!!

Would I have to wait until she starts reception in September or just for her birthday?

not sure about that one. you could call CIS or NCMA they should know. good luck

Hi
I understood that if 10 sessions were attended they were classed as as 5
Frankie

The child must be aged 4 years old, before it's possible to consider them to be a rising 5.
I can not find any revisions to 2.4, so I expect it still stands.

National Standards: Childminding
2.4 Children aged four attending ten early education sessions a week may be classed as children over five years for the purposes of the adult:child ratio.

It may be worth trying to push for a variation, to cover the period between now and when she turns 4 in July. You never know, they may agree to amend your registration so that it states that when your daughter is not present, then she is part of your 5-8 ratio. In the event of her being at home (such as being ill, nursery closed etc), then she's alas part of your ratio.

If that compromise would work for you, may be worth seeing what Ofsted would do. You never know, they may be nice! You don't known unless you ask.

Havent read all the thread but my ds will soon be going to nursery for the state education and even if he does 10 sessions a wekk he still counts as one of my under five because he could beill one day.

It is proper school (ie. reception class) for 4 year olds to count as a rising five, definitely not a nursery, even if child is there full-time.

Jelly - if you write to OFSTED about the situation, could you say that your partner would be the one responsible for your ds if he was ill or off for any reason. They'll probably still say no (it being OFSTED), but could be worth a try.

Sorry, Jensmum, not Jelly