can someone explain nanny share to me?

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We have had our nanny for 3.5 years now and are very happy with her. The youngest starts school this September. I know a mum who is happy to nanny share with us( if the nanny agrees, haven't asked yet but my instinct is that she will agree to it ).
I will need her after the school and during holidays. The other mum needs her to be a sole charge for her child during the day.
What are the things I need to be know about nanny share?
How do you share holidays?

So the nanny would have the baby all day e.g. 8-6 and then your children 3-6, your children and the other child all day e.g. 8-6 in the holidays?

Nanny-shares normally pay slightly more than single family jobs, a pay rise will probably be in order.

You obviously need to work out who pays what, where the share will take place, who will pick up/drop off the children, who will provide food/nappies, what if something gets broken by one of the children in the house that isn't theirs, what if one of the children is sick, what if one of the parents is late home etc etc.

With holiday the nanny should still get her 5.6 weeks or whatever she is due, so you need to sort it out between you and the other family to ensure she gets her holiday. What is your current arrangement? It's normal to split it 50/50 with nanny, so maybe nanny chooses 50% and each family choose 25%.

What hours does your nanny currently do and do they have duties beyond just childcare? If they changed to working at someone elses home and picking your children up from school - is that what you want? Or would you want the nanny to be at your home and the other family bring/collect their baby?

She is not involved with anything other than childcare.
We don't need her in the morning and she will be in their house till she picks up my children and the children will be in our house as it is on the way home for the other mum and is on the way to the nanny's home.

What about in the school holidays?

Haven't thought of that . Need to think about it. Any suggestions?

Consider the logistics of getting children from A to B, especially during school holidays when trips out would likely occur.

Consider if you want baby equipment at your home? If after school, all children come back to your home, then some baby equipment and toys will need to be at your home - is transporting those every day practical or have you got space to store things?

Would the other parents want your home baby proofed in any way? Some parents want that sort of thing, others don't.

There are many things to consider when doing a share, these are just some. It could work well, or it might not, you probably won't know until you try.

If your house is nearer to the nannies and is on the other mum's route from home to work then I would suggest you host at your house and the other mum drops her child off on the way to work.

Then you need to think about;

equipment; is the other child a baby? Does it need highchair/pram/cot etc? Do you have these? Who will supply them? Are you happy to keep them at your house during the holidays.

food; who will provide food? If it's you are you happy to do this long term? Should the other mum pay a bit towards it? Should she send food for her child?

wear and tear; what will happen if the other child rips books or smashes a window?

This all depends on the other mum being happy to drop her child off. One of the main advantages of a nanny is the child being looked after in their own home and not having to be organised enough to get them out in the morning. Are you happy/able to drop your children at her house?

What are the ages of the children?

Thanks for the replies so far.
Maybe I have not made it clear. I won't need her in the morning as we will be dropping my dc's(11 and 4) at school in the morning. Therefore the nanny will go to the other mums house and the mum wont have to organise any thing before she goes to work. At 3.30 on her way back home, nanny will pick the children from school and have them in our house. Our home is on the way to home from work, so she will pick up her child and go home. I have known the other mum for nearly 15 years and really won't mind if the nanny uses things from my house for the other child and it is the same in their house.
The other child is 1.5 years and I don't mind any highchair , pram, cot etc in my house either.
My main worry is how the holidays are divided- at present our nanny has 5 weeks holiday plus all bank holidays( In reality it is more than 6 weeks plus bank holidays).
How is the nanny pay and nanny tax divided? I want to work everything out as I don't want to have any misunderstanding with the other mum, want things to work out or take any advantage of the situation either.

You will need the nanny in the mornings in school holidays though, so you need to work out what will happen on those mornings re. the other child being dropped off etc.

How the holidays are divided is really up to you. It's not fair to the nanny to get less than she is now (or less that the minimum allowance if she gets extra), so you need to take that as a starting point and then speak to the other mum.

With regard to pay/tax whoever does your payslips etc at the moment should be able to work it out for you, so nannytax or whoever. Have you worked out who will pay how much?

No I haven't worked out how much each of us will pay. At present I pay 7.50 gross per hour(average in these parts) for 40 hours a week. As I have already said, We will use her during school holidays (8.00am to 5.00am) though.
How should her pay be divided?

It's up to you really. There was a thread about this a while back and opinion was split fairly evenly. Half (including me) though that the pay should be divided by number of children e.g. you pay £5ph (2 children) and she pays £2.50ph (1 child). The other half thought it should be split per family e.g. you pay £3.75 each.

Nanny shares are ususally paid more so you may need to up her wages to £8.50-£9 and then divide that how you think is best.

Also you need to factor in when she will only have one child and when she will have all of them. It is standard to pay a nanny while the DC's are at school where you expect her to be on call. So in theory you should pay £5 throughout the school day aswell as after school, but then your friend is getting sole-charge childcare for £2.50 an hour, which seems unfair to you. It's very complicated!

Ultimately you need to think what you want to pay, what you feel is fair. Think how much it is fair to pay the nanny and see if the other mum is happy to make up the difference. Then give this info to nannytax and they'll sort it.

I have a friend and she works for 3 families all on different days, different rates depending on how many children, if they're at school or not etc etc, they just give all the info to nannytax and they tell each family how much they need to pay her and how much tax to pay.

Thanks Holy and Nanny Nick.
I have also did a archive search regarding nanny share.
I have to work out how much we can pay towards the nanny and have an open conversation with the other mum.