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advice from the nanny's perspective (warning: this is long!)

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Squinkle · 21/12/2011 12:04

I am an ex-nanny and am often absolutely baffled by some of the things I have read on here. I understand that getting a nanny is a complicated and confusing process when you?re doing it for the first time, but I would like to offer some advice from the nanny?s perspective. I am not perfect, no-one is, and I don't mean this to upset people AT ALL, I just thought it might help:

Do not appoint a nanny out of desperation; if you can?t find the right nanny for you, wait until you do. It will be worth it in the long run ? I can?t understand why people settle for nannies that they?re not 100% happy with ? these are your children being looked after, not your houseplants!

Make sure you have a full contract, including sick pay, compassionate leave, holiday pay/entitlement, notice periods for sickness, holidays and leaving the job for you and for the nanny, expenses, and how much of your food she can eat and when. Casual verbal arrangements and sloppy contracts do not work! Most of the problems I have read about on here have arisen because of this, or because of not including the below:

Along with the contract, write a list of duties that you would like her to perform, so that there?s no confusion/resentment about ironing, cleaning, shopping, cooking etc. Also include anything else you feel strongly about ? i.e. television, internet use, food for the children, what to do about bad behaviour etc.

Remember that your nanny is human! Nannies typically work for longer hours than a city worker with significantly less pay, breaks, perks and holidays. If your children are too old for daytime naps, arrange for your nanny to have a break during the day where the children agree that they will play in another room and let the nanny sit down for half an hour. If your children are little, don?t give the nanny jobs to do while they?re sleeping ? let her have a break! No-one can work effectively without a break, and it?s also illegal!

Don?t arrive home late thinking that she won?t mind ? she will, but she won't want to say anything. Obviously you can?t help it if it?s genuine and she will understand that. If you can let her leave early on occasion that is also brilliant for the nanny! (I'm not talking about every week here, just occasionally.)

If you have any problems with your nanny, talk to her about them immediately, don?t let it fester. Although it is very important to ask your children if they are happy with their nanny and they should feel able to speak up if something?s wrong, it?s not fair to encourage them to tell tales on her. We all know that children?s understanding and perspectives on things can be different from ours so it?s not fair not to give the nanny a say. If you were managing someone at work and were unhappy with their performance you would say something ? do the same here. Encourage your nanny to feel able to raise problems with you too.

Re. Xmas pay/bonuses/presents, it?s up to you and obviously dependant on how much you earn, but anything you can give is much appreciated, as it would be by you at your workplace.

Your children are the most precious and important things in your life: therefore the person who looks after them should be treated accordingly, with respect and with gratitude.

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Simplyme · 21/12/2011 14:29

Well said

Laquitar · 21/12/2011 14:48

I'm not a nanny but an ex-nanny like you.

I agree with all your points but i just wanted to say re your 2nd paragraph that it is a money issue. Many families don't earn enough even with 2 wages after mortgage so it is very tempting to go for a cheaper option even if it is not the best one. Unfortunetely thats the reality, it is about the maths.

Can i add smth to your list? Never compare your job or your disposable income with that of your nanny's. It is a very different job comparing to most. So yes your employer doesn't provide you lunch and you provide lunch for your nanny but different jobs/different perks, accept it like this otherwise comparing apples with oranges will drive you mad (i've seen this here).

PaulaMummyKnowsBest · 21/12/2011 14:51

also speaking as an ex nanny....
pay your nanny on time - you wouldn't be happy if your boss paid you late
say thank you - it is nice to be appreciated!

nbee84 · 21/12/2011 14:57

I'm a nanny and agree with your points but would like to add that I think nannies should have some consideration for their employers in regards to contacts/holiday pay/maternity leave/sick pay etc - they have very often not employed anyone before and are new to all this employer business, they are not HR specialists and will often have to find some things out as they go along.

One point from me;

Your nanny earns a gross wage just as you do. Her tax and ni come out of this, you are not paying them for her on top of her wages.

nbee84 · 21/12/2011 14:58

contracts

nannynick · 21/12/2011 15:01

I agree with nbee84 - nannies need to help parents understand with regard to contracts/holiday arrangements etc. Nannies can know far more about the employment side of things than the parents do, as the parents may have no prior experience of HR.

Squinkle · 21/12/2011 15:12

I absolutely agree nannynick and nbee84 - that's why it's so important to have clear lines of communications going both ways... it's all such a minefield that it's great to be able to learn from eachother.

It's also great that other nannies are adding to this thread - as i said in my OP it's just to put some advice out there.

Laquitar, I completely understand about the money thing, it's very difficult - especially in this financial climate - I am all up for people choosing the cheaper option but not if they are going to work feeling uneasy about who their children are with all day; I have seen many people posting about that and I really feel for them.

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Blondeshavemorefun · 21/12/2011 20:35

great post op :)

and yes pay on time and come home on time and if not able to, then ring and grovel - dont assume the nanny can always stay - obviously we HAVE to as cant leave the children home alone but try and have back up gps/neighbour/babysitter etc

and last thing

the odd thank you goes a long way - and a bottle of wine/bunch of flowers etc once in a blue moon also goes a looooooooooooooong way if you are blondes Grin

eurycantha · 21/12/2011 20:53

I wanted to agree with Blondes [as always] that to me one of the most important things is that they ring if they are going to be late ,I tell my employers if I need to be out on time to babysit and they will always try to be back on time,Otherwise I do just like them to phone so I know what s going on.Merry Christmas Blondes a big hug to you.

Blondeshavemorefun · 21/12/2011 21:31

Thanks eurycantha - tho whether you are going out / babysitting or just going home our mb's should be home on time regardless iyswim

callaird · 21/12/2011 23:10

I agree with Blondes and eurcantha - I always tell new employers that I understand that sometimes things don't go as planned and you might be late home but please call me as soon as you know you are going to be late. Do not call me at 6:30pm (when I am due to finish) to tell me you are just leaving work, meaning you are not going to be home until 8:30. I will not be impressed. If you usually leave work at 5pm, please call/text and say that you cannot get away and do keep me informed as often as you can.

RunJHC · 22/12/2011 19:12

Just considering employing a nanny for the first time so finding this thread really useful. Keep 'em coming!

ageperfect · 24/12/2011 23:58

well said....to the dot.......

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