that is it.. i am done being a childminder

[MaryPoppinsMagic]

Have started several threads over the last few weeks on here and aibu.

I've been registered since september and every parent I have had has messed me about.

The latest was - I am ending the trial because you want to take my son to the shop.

If this is the future then I don't want it. Going to have to pay back the set up grant but oh well.

NanBullen

that's really not a nice thing to say about nannies?

I am a not very bright nanny, I only have a teaching degree. And have done a year of microbiology and chemistry at university too. Oh how thick I am!

How petty chesterdrawers picking out a spelling mistake. If you read her post again it says she knows there are some better nurseries. Everyone should be allowed an opinion. Nanbullen what an insuting thing to say only a nanny what a snob you sound.

Nanbullen I do not think you sound very bright comming out with that comment. Chesterdrawers if you take one child out to post letters does that mean less staff are left in the nursery?

Sunshinenanny what do you mean by pallets?

Chester where do the children sleep where you work?

I visited a few nurseries and they all said they had to sleep at the same time, this is what put me off really.

eastnorth if i take one child to post a letter, then obviously, there are less staff in the nursery. But we normally operate with spare staff anyway. But, it's no different to a staff member being away from the room to change nappies.
Our children sleep on sleep mats. Some of the children sleep after lunch. Some children sleep in the comfy area a bit later in the afternoon- they tend to just take themselves off and drop off to sleep when they are tired.

Wow a nursery operating with spare staff never heard that before. When you change a nappy this would be for a few minutes, not half an hour. No offence purple but not all the children would wonder of and just put themselves to sleep, would think this was rare. Having said that I am sure there must be good nurseries out there.

My DD nursery was fabulous . They were very child led - it was run by a child psychologist . If the children were tired they could sleep if they wished . Certainly not a baby farm as sunshinenanny disgustingly calls them . Our DD really thrived there .

What a shame thus thread has turned into nursery/nanny bashing.

I wouldn't use a nanny or cm or nursery who started telling me how bad the alternative is.

Mpm- hope you get some new clients soon.

In fairness it is a bit stupid to so blatantly trash the "opposition" and I agree with mnistooaddicitive as someone who has used nannies and nurseries at various points I would never use either if they started telling me how bad the alternative was, it speaks volumes.

I think NanBullen's comments are awful but personally I chose a nursery for my children precisely because I didn't want them taken out on outings. I've seen many toddlers out with childminders and have been appalled by their behaviour and the way they were supervised. At playgroups they were always snatching and hitting because no one was watching them properly (having a cup of tea and making friends, perhaps? or just unable to watch four children?) and I used to go to an outdoor paint and play right next to a road. The childminders used to gather together and chat, not watching if the children ran out into the road. One fell off the top of a slide once, was lying on the ground screaming, and a mother had to approach the group of childminders to find out who was meant to be looking after the child. I'm sure there are good childminders out there (and op should hold out for decent families who do want a good cm) but it put me right off. So I thought at least at a childcare, if the supervisor's attention lapsed it would be a safe environment. But they are only there three days a week and they started at 2 and 3.

trying I'm shocked by what you have seen childminders doing were not all like that I promise.

I judge my day on how the children are, if I have 2 happy children and 1 child a bit grumpy we stay in and do activities but if they are all happy and in 'good' moods I.e not tired or poorly we go off to playgroup. I do this because I need my attention split 3 ways and not just on one of them.

Please can we stop bashing the opposition on my thread?? We all know that there is pros and cons to all childcare providers

there are good and bad cms, nurserys, parents nannies, teachers, police officers etc etc

to label one group bad and one good is stupid and lazy.

yawn yawn..

Wow and I've only been on holiday a week To answer some of your comments; Firstly I do not live in a deprived area and all the nursery incidents I mention involved private nurseries so I consider it narrow minded to assume that all nurseries in deprived areas are bad, in fact one of the best nurseries I ever encountered was a council run subsidised one in a village hall.

By pallets I mean thick mats on the floor. I've yet to come across a nursery with proper beds in, allthough I did go in one that had 12 cots in a small room with about 14 inches between each cot.

Actually I do know the difference between Their and There but after a long day at work and a tiring week in general we all make spelling mistakes, How Petty! Who decreed spelling had anything to do with intelligence my freind has a law degree and laughs at her own spelling. Totally irrelevant!

As for 'Bitter' I don't think so! I was offered a job in a nursery before my present nanny job but having spent a day there (correct spelling) I was so appalled by some of the things I saw that I felt like crying and turned the job down, letting their(correct spelling) Head Office Know exactly why.

I do not slag off nurseries to my employers I don't need to as they are looking for home based childcare and already believe in the benefits.

Thanks redglow for actually reading my post. I have said some nurseries are okay but I still do not believe they are the best place for young babies and children under 3 I base this on my own observations and experience gained over 30 years as a proffessional nanny, maternity nurse and at one time a Pre-School worker. It is a personal oppinion and I hope the OP does stay in the business because we need more good quality homecare.

Concerning the rope it is a certain chain that does this although others might too and I once had a child leave the rope and follow me with the pram I was pushing and catch us up some yards away when I looked down and saw she was walking beside me I foolishly took her back and said "had they not noticed she was gone?" obviously not! judging by their glares. To this day I wish I had taken the child to the local police station as I doubt her mother was ever told.

Sorry if any spelling mistakes offend the poster who was so insulting to nannies but I'm on holiday and using the library so not much time[smille]

But sunshine nanny there was no need for your derogatory comments. To be honest they make you look immature and unprofessional.

How is sunshine immature and unproffesional? This is an opinion site she has commented on nurseries. I know loads of nannies who started working in nurseries and I do not know anyone that would like to go back there.

My friend who used to be a manager of a nursery said she would never send her child there. There was lots of younger people working there because of the rubbish wages and they would often ring in sick with a hangover, she nearly always could not cover and then had to open the nursery anyway with not enough staff because sher could not turn children away. As thebody said there are good and bad . But I have temped in six and picked up from a a few and would not leave my dc in any of them..

This is not a thread about nurseries. It is a thread by a childminder looking for opinions. The throw away negative comments about nurseries were not relevant and in no way added to the thread. They were an attempt to rubbish the competition in an immature way.

Loads of threads completely go off the original subject.

Yes, that's the whole point of a discussion. I hope the OP stays in the business as I fully support her and do not feel I have any duty to support a type of childcare I feel damages vulnerable children. I also accept that mnistonaddictive has every right to defend whatever type of childcare she supports. I wouldn't dream of attacking her or anyone else in a such personal manner just because they have a different view. It is not immature to point out bad practise I am not prepared to turn a blind eye to negligence and abuse. The incidence I mention are all real and as I said there are some good/safe nurseries. I don't need to rubbish a system that allows a small child to wonder off with a complete stranger and not even notice.

Just randomly sticking my nose in, OP I hope these new families work out well for you, and WTF was that woman complaining about you taking her child to the shop?!? Would she never take the child to the shop if she needed to? Did they have some kind of shelf or till allergy? Bonkers.

As you were :o

Strange isn't it. You are getting quite a few enquiries but they all mess you around and then others get nothing for months and they sign up straight away and don't mess around.

yep hope all works out well for you after all the hassel, you desreve it.

I guess its not so much the setting, nursery, cm or nanny its the fact that the people who work doing these jobs actually WANT to and like working with young children and find them stimulating, fun and at the end of the day want the children to feel loved, secure and cherished..

personally I am amazed at the amount of people at school who look at me with the 4 littlies and say,

'i couldnt do what you do' I answer

'what picninc in the summer and all day at the park? sledging and snowey walks, painting and messing around feeding ducks, shopping and making cakes, chatting to the most funny people in the world and being paid for hugs'

office, ward , classroom or boardroom.. no thank you mate..

Sunshinenanny - no way on earth would I want my 2 children to spend their day with somebody as narrow minded as you . I think THAT is damaging to children in itself. As said earlier you are immature and unprofessional. Thank god my 2 went to nursery .

Sunshine- I didn't call you immature and unprofessional, I said your comments made you look like this. They are 2 different things.

As I said sillyoldself I respect other people's right to think as they wish; Hardly narrow minded! Actually I do not believe in indoctrinating young children with my opinions as it isn't my job .My job is to keep them safe happy and well cared for. I must be doing something right as most of my grown up charges and their families still keep in touch and all are doing well. We all choose the kind of childcare we believe in and often get the kind we deserve. you obviously support nursery care or you wouldn't have sent your children to one. Thats your right and I respect it, so I won't stoop to personal insults.

Just looked at your post Sillyoldself and realised you are the one who suggested bad nurseries are not private and only in deprived areas (pot calling the kettle black springs to mind) and the immature unproffessional bit was stolen from mnistooaddictive