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"super- childminder", or is she??

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Chepstow1 · 03/12/2005 07:40

Hi there, wondered if I could pick the brains of childminders/carers/nanny's and mums. I have a 14 month son who has been going to a childminder since Sept for roughly 3 days a week. My childminder is lovely, very like minded on food/activity, and gives him lots of cuddles.

She is a highly qualified ex paediatric nurse and as a result is expensive (£6.50 an hour). I need some flexibility in my job, so have booked 4 days a week and only use 3. I feel that if she feels she is getting a good deal and is right for my son, then we all win.

OK, so here come the issues.....She has her own son and is very evangelical about giving up her career to be at home. She often makes the point that she has never left her son with anyone and just wouldn't. She has also made it very clear that my little boy needs to fit into her routine and this has resulted in him being forced into dropping his morning sleep which he has like clockwork when he is at home (and sleeps at lunctime and from 7-7 at night). She has told me that he never sleeps well at her house and does not need this sleep (when in fact I have discovered it it really because her own son gets up earlier than mine and by 9 is desperate to be out of the house, so all her activities start at 9). She has also said my son is a poor eater, where at home he eats more than me. Also, and this is the bit that is really irritating (but I can deal with if everything else was OK), she is constantly career counselling me, saying "why do you work", "couldn't you move house and live on less money", " a child needs its mummy", etc. I think she thinks she is being nice, but it trebles my guilt at being away.

Finally, she is I think the "good deal" e.g being paid a 4th day and not yet having had to work it has meant she just expects not to work it. Last week I asked her to work 4 days and she constantly told me how tired my son was, what a long week he's had, and how she doesn't know how I could face being away from him.

I was running a conference and really busy at work, and spent every evening in tears.

Am I just experiencing what all Mums experience when you leave your child, or should I give hee the boot and find someone with more experience (she may have lots of nursing quals, but I have totally led the way on using utensils for food and assisting mobility etc etc), and gives me less of a guilt trip.

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katymac · 04/12/2005 08:54

I have a child on a fixed police rota -I could give you a list of his days (from 2 to 4 a week) and say if you work round this I can be more flexible

However for me not knowing until each week what days a child would be coming would be very difficult. This is because I would have to set aside a full weeks "place" to ensure one would be available for your DS.

I need that week's income - so for me it would be hard

Not sure about other childminders tho'

Chepstow1 · 04/12/2005 09:27

Hi, I actually think it is reasonable to pay someone for the days you want them to be available to you and then it's up to you if you want to use them or not, just wanted to check if I was being a bit of a mug here!

Thanks!

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HappyMumof2TurtleDoves · 04/12/2005 09:53

I think it depends really. There are some childminders who can be more flexible, for example, someone who only wants to work part time and only care for one child. I think you just need to 'shop around'
You may find with most childminders you would have to pay for all the hours you are potentially using, as you are effectively taking up a full time place, but there are always some childminders out there who work differently.
I suppose another option for you would be a nanny share, you find this cheaper, if you are only paying for the hours you use, although I'm not sure how it works.
Good Luck

alibubbles · 04/12/2005 11:28

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snafu · 04/12/2005 12:39

It does depend, Chepstow. My childminder is utterly fab and very flexible - although in my defence I did sign the contract with her on the basis that she was going to have to be! I am in college Weds-Fri and then working two shifts any time Sat-Tues and I just tell her at the end of each week what days I will need her to have ds the next week. I think it's my part of the bargain to give her as much notice as I can and her part to be as flexible and accomodating as she can be - it's worked fine so far.

She's a gem though - picks ds up, drops him off - and even gives me a lift to the station in the morning if she's going in that direction! I really must make sure I get her a decent Xmas present

katymac · 04/12/2005 13:08

So you would book for 3 days but maybe only use 1 full day and maybe a half day

I'd be OK if you paid for the days and let me know by 8.30 - if you were cominig in or not....is that what you mean?

Chepstow1 · 04/12/2005 13:24

Think so, I will know broadly what fixed days I need, but would like ability to change and so would need to ensure some sessions were available to me (and would therefore be prepared to pay for them) and in a perfect world have a little bit of flex too (e.g ask the childminder if she could do say Tues instead of Wed and if she was free then switch)

Anyway, I am seeing some people next week, so lets see where we go

Cheers, enjoy your Sunday

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mandieb · 04/12/2005 13:32

This time next week you could be sorted ,isnt that a nice thought .

merrybelly · 04/12/2005 14:04

How do you think she'll take your going? Hope all goes well, you deserve some slack next time round!

ThePrisoner · 04/12/2005 17:08

If someone wanted to pay me for a specific three full days and might or might not use them, that would be fine (obviously!!) If I have space on other days, then I would also happily be more flexible. This isn't something that would work if I didn't have space on the other days! If your new minder can't swap days because she doesn't have space, would this be a major problem?

There are minders who don't want to take on full-time mindees, and are therefore much more flexible and able to accommodate what you would need.

Newly-registered minders might be more amenable, but there might be problems later on as they get more enquiries and may want to fill their spaces.

There will be someone lovely out there for you - good luck with your search.

Chepstow1 · 04/12/2005 17:45

Thanks, getting quite excited about meeting new prospective carers...

xxxxx to you all

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gemma97 · 05/12/2005 16:53

I can tell you that there are definitely flexible childminders out there. My hours are fixed but I still occasionally have had to ask to swap days (eg when my mum was ill) which has been fine. It also meant that I was happy to rearrange my childcare when it was her dd's birthday. My CM has quite a few friends in the same line of work and they get together a lot for coffee, trips out etc. In the unlikely event that she couldn't help, there would generally be someone about nearby who could.
I love her to bits and would be utterly lost without her. Hooray for childminders!

Pol25 · 08/12/2005 11:32

I have been a nanny, now a mummy and begining to become a childminder. No matter what my opinions have been when I have cared for children, the parents are right (unless v.awful things going on etc...). As for stopping his sleep- no wonder he was tired at the end of the week!!!
I have only been away from my D three times when I have visited my sister and felt guilty but some people have to work and not just for the financial side of things either... for the fact that sometimes as a mother you feel looked over, when you are doing an improtant job. I can understand fully why women want to work and need to work for them. It is not being selfish, it's personal choice.
I really think she is being very mean and quite cruel. Surely she realises that YOU are paying her and her employee... I would have to say something if that was me!

mandieb · 08/12/2005 17:59

have you found anyone yet ?

Chepstow1 · 11/12/2005 09:54

Hello everyone, have found someone!!! Got simply childcare and found a nanny who looks after 2 older children (5 and 8), both at school. The family have kept her full time (she has been with them for all of the 8 years), and she is getting bored during the day, so asked if she could take on another baby in their home (which is about 10 mins from me). I saw the ad and thought "this is perfect". I am just about to call the other family and have a chat about practicalites e.g are they OK with having a lock on the cupboard under sink and what do we do is my one damages something. Then my new lady is coming next Tues here for a period to see my son in his home and we start after Xmas.

As for soopa childminder, things have been awful this week. After I have her notice she has been mon syllibic. On Thurs I called her when the kids were asleep and said lets have a chat and I gave her a broader explanation of the reasons why I have given her notice. She was speechless (a first). I was then utterly godsmmaked when she sent me a lenghtly email accusing me of verbal abuse, aggression and manipulation along with clarification of end dates!!! Blimey, me and my hubby laughed. I am about as aggresive as a goldfish!

If I could I just bring my son away today but I need her next week. Do you think I have any risks here? Its her son's 1st party today and we gor dis invited (by email) last night. My little boy is due to go to her Mon, Tues and Thurs next week. What would you guys do??

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katymacracker · 11/12/2005 10:01

I'm glad you have someone else

I think she is trying some damage limitation and will not cause any further trouble

Good luck and I hope it all works out for you

HappyMumof2TurtleDoves · 11/12/2005 10:07

Hi Chepstow, so glad you found someone else She sounds a sandwich short of a picnic tbh. Personally, I wouldn't send ds back there. She sounds very angry and put out and I just don't think it's worth the risk. I know it's rubbish for you, but I would just leave it be now and tell her you won't be needing her again.

Chepstow1 · 11/12/2005 10:46

I am going to chat to hubby and see if we can come up with some cover options. I am actually such a stupid sap that I feel that as unfortunate as all this has been, I would like to end things on a peaceful note, and maybe a few days with her this week and things will calm down (or she will).

Personally I cannot be doing with harbouring grudges and just think "isn't life interesting", draw a line under stuff and move (but learn from the experience). Choosing a carer for my child and having my child cared for by someone else has been a really new experience. I feel confident that things can only get better for us a family from here, but would hope that I could part from the current carer in a reasonable fashion.

However if there is a hint of risk, we're out of there quicker than a very quick thing...sod the dilplomacy!!

Monday will be difficult with work new week, but other than that, I could cope if I had to keep him at home (work eve/sleep times/etc), so I have options.

Have a nice Sunday you lovely people

xxx

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Chepstow1 · 11/12/2005 10:47

God my typing is awful, note to self...must read posts before posting!

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katymacracker · 11/12/2005 10:54

Don't worry about your typing - you have enough on your plate atm

HellyBelly · 11/12/2005 13:29

Chepstow1 - just seen your post on nannyshares re: my advert. Thanks so much for your kind comments!

Just wanted to say I'm glad you seem to be sorting things, all the best whatever happens

Chepstow1 · 11/12/2005 17:10

Your website HB was really useful and I used it to make a list of stuff to talk to other childminders about, big thanks

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HellyBelly · 11/12/2005 17:20

No probs! Just need to add my references and 'birth to three matters' documents to it.

Let's hope the policies etc are good enough for my Ofsted inspection this week!

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