what do you think of this?

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i am registering to become a CMer but am holding off on the house registration until i get a house. my own isn't suitable spacewise. a woman i know has asked me if i would care for her 11 month old ds 2/3 days per week from 9.30 to just before 2pm in her house. she has said it is fine for me to bring my 2 year old and during the summer my 6 year old. she knows that i am registering and hoping to move so it will be a temporary arrangement and niether of us have any clue what would be an appropriate wage. the rate for CMers locally is around £3-£3.50/hr. i have previous experience of nannying although it was a few years ago.

any thoughts?

lots of nannys on here will answer your questions.. i cm so not qualified to do so but just wanted to say good luck.. you will need a contract though...

yes that's what i need advice on. this other woman has never had a nanny before so she doesn't know what needs to happen either. we are both a bit

thank you for wishing me luck.

As you are bringing your own children, then it could be quite a low wage. However NMW would apply, so around the £6 mark. NMW goes up in October to just over £6 I think (poor net access at moment so can't easily check).
Employers NI would be an additional cost to employer, as might payroll costs (though they could do it themselves).

thank you nannynick. would i pay the tax on that or would the employer?

sorry if this is really basic stuff. i just dont know anything about who does what.

Nanny = Employee. So they would operate PAYE and deduct tax and NI from your wage plus pay Employers NI.
When you are a registered childminder you are self employed as you run a business and dictate the terms. When as a nanny you are not in control, your employer dictates the terms.

thank you nannynick. that's a great help.

Why isn't your own home suitable for childminding? Could you not get registered now for just a few children, then increase number when moved to a larger house?
Whilst you would not earn as much by being a childminder only caring for your own children plus one minded child, you will be your own boss and will be getting into childminding gradually.
You have been a nanny in the past. Do you really want to go back to that, or do you want to be a childminder?

i could get registered now but my kitchen (and the rest of the house) is very small and i know from looking after my own children that i spend alot of time in it. it is fine with 2 dcs we can all fit and have space to move when doing homework and crafting and i can have them at a safe distance from the oven but with anymore children it would be too small and i think too dangerous.

i didn't intend to become a nanny again, except that this woman has asked me to care for her son. if she hadn't asked i wouldn't be considering it tbh. i guess i just see it more as helping her out.

In my view you need to decide if you want to be a childminder or not. If you do, you need to talk with other childminders about the practicalities. I've known childminders who have small houses, just one room really for childminding. They manage fine.

oh i definitely do want to be a childminder! i just don't want to start childminding here and find out it isn't working so i have to let families down. i know lots of people can make it work in small homes, but i just know how i use the space in this house and even now i find it very frustrating not having a spot for the buggy so i am constantly moving it. nowhere to put coats and bags or shoes. and lots of otehr little niggly things that would just be even more noticeable with more children in the house. it might sound silly but it really is frustrating. i dont want to end up letting people down if i find it just isn't working in this house. which i really dont think it will.

In this lovely weather, we often make a picnic before the children arrive, jump straight in the car and go out for the day. Would that not work for you? I'm not sure if you could maybe (I don't know) get away with being a self employed nanny for a short while, as long as you are dictating hours/rates/etc. It would definitely not work as a long term arrangement.

hi, just to update. i found a property today and will be moving at the start of july. this mum starts her new job in 3 weeks and we have agreed that i will care for her son at her house until i am registered and then look after him in my home after that. so it will only be a short while we will have the nanny arrangement. thank you for all the advice. i appreciate it.