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So Bl**dy Angry

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Fuming · 02/11/2005 11:32

DS used to go to a childminder but didn't seem happy so we removed him and he now is looked after by DH's mum.

DH's mum took us aside yesterday and said that DS had told her that when he was with this CM she was always smacking him on his hand and being grumpy with him. Also she had an 18 year son with ADHD who used to call DS names such as "Dckhead" and "Dpsht" - words which DS never used and had never heard from us. We addressed this with her immediately when we found out and she was very unhelpful saying she can't stop her son from using these words. After this we took DS away.

It has been 2 months since DS was with her but we now want to report her to Ofsted. surely she is now allowed to smack children and the way her son spoke to DS was disgusting.

Hhow would we go about this. Would it be DS's word against hers? Would DS even have to be involved as he gets upset even hearing this womans name now. What would you do?

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Fuming · 02/11/2005 12:45

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ks · 02/11/2005 12:53

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amynnixmum · 02/11/2005 12:56

She is absolutely NOT allowed to smack your child. Childminders are not allowed to use or threaten to use any forms of discipline that frighten or humiliate children.

What did she say about the smacking?

Angeliz · 02/11/2005 13:03

DEFINATELY reprt her!
What a bitch!!

staceym11 · 02/11/2005 13:38

definately report her, as to wether it'll be his word against hers how old is he, as under 3 kids generally dont make wild accusations like this and Ofsted know that, its hard for kids to make things up and it isn't about things lik this when they do.

my friends little girl used to go to a cm and one day she was at the doctors with her mum, her mum had her blood pressure taken, the little girl said "thats a thing you put on and use a pointy thing to put stuff in your arm", she reported it to the police. it turns out the little girl had seen the cm injecting heroine into herself, she was 2 years old.

trying to show that you never know what can happen to your child with someone who just doesnt care!

HappyMumof2 · 02/11/2005 13:40

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staceym11 · 02/11/2005 13:44

oh would like to say that the cm i was talking about wasnt registered but had fake papers etc so be careful to check properly

Fuming · 02/11/2005 13:53

Stacey - That is shocking. How awful for your poor DD. How is your DD now?

Sadly she is registered as we had to give her details to claim the childcare element of tax credits. What really breaks my heart is that ds said she did not do this to the others kids -only him. However another 2 year old boy did bite Ds when she was "caring" for him and when DH came to pick DS up the CM mentioned it and then started telling this other poor little boy off again even though it happenned hours before, even encouraging DH to join in. This is when alarm bells first started ringing.

I have tested DS to see if he is making it up but he says no-one else has ever smacked him, only her, and the words he told us were used by this other boy (well man really) he has never heard / used. BTW he has just turned 4 now.

I will call Ofsted and report her tomorrow when I am off work as she CANNOT be allowe to treat kids like this.

Thank you all so much

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HellyBelly · 02/11/2005 19:45

Haven't had time to read all as got to dash but YES, report her!! I have this phone number in my policies and procedures in case any parent wants to complain about me. It's 0800 169 86.

Good luck!

ThePrisoner · 02/11/2005 23:33

Not sure which phone number Helly has given, but the Complaints and Enforcement telephone number is: 0845 601 4772. (It's the number I give to parents if they want to complain about me, and I have checked it on the website in case I got it wrong, but it confirms my telephone number ... sorry Helly, not trying to tread on toes here!!)

Unfortunately, unless you involve Social Services or the police, it is unlikely that OFSTED will be able to do much more than a "don't do this, (if you did do it)" type of thing.

I speak from very bitter experience (not my own!!!) as I know a minder who has had so many complaints made against her that it defies belief that she wasn't struck off. Unless you can prove wrongdoing, you can whistle for justice. Some of the allegations made against this minder were made by a child I minded, who told me what happened, and didn't want to tell his parents (it was a "secret"). He allowed me to tell his parents. I knew that they were one family in a long line of complainers.

OFSTED were requested to attend various childcare groups (because they'd be able to catch her out being wildly over her numbers - a very minor offence compared to the rest of them), were requested to be at the school (where they could witness the number of children in her car, and none of them had seatbelts), and to take on board that if so many unrelated families were making complaints over such a long period of time, maybe there was something in it. Guess what OFSTED said ... "we'll have a word with her ... again."

And no, she wasn't obliged to give up her registration. I have very little faith in their system. Sorry, another little rant over. Have had a jolly hard training session this evening learning all about OFSTED's new super-duper ideas for improving the way us childminders operate, and am not a happy bunny. Am going to have to start my own thread when I've calmed down!!

HellyBelly · 03/11/2005 06:13

Ooops , thanks theprisoner for correcting me there. I was rushing with my reply and picked up the NCMA advice line phone number which is also on the page with Ofsted's details.

Sorry about that!

staceym11 · 03/11/2005 16:31

it wasnt my dd it was a friends, she was oly little then so she didnt realise what was going on but her mum has been very careful with who she leaves her with since, just a warning check carefully and listen to your child!!!

ThePrisoner · 03/11/2005 21:12

Helly - was only worried in case you'd written the Ann Summers Consumer Testing telephone number ...!!

ThePrisoner · 03/11/2005 21:13

Fuming - have you phoned OFSTED? Would be interested in hearing how you got on.

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