Nannies - what has to be in place to register with Ofsted?

[Scarfmaker]

I'm posting on behalf of a friend who is not computer-literate!

For the past ten years or so she has worked in a private nursery, in a reception class but has recently been made redundant from a family where she was looking after two young children for a local family after Mum lost her job.

She has been looking for more work but most families need Ofsted registered nannies so they can use the voucher scheme.

My question is does my friend have to have any formal qualifications to be ofsted-registered? She has first aid, safeguarding and a CRB check but does she need NVQs etc?

She has a family in mind but they want her to be ofsted registered as they can use the salary sacrific scheme.

Any other advice would be gratefully received.

She needs a common core qualification - this can be from an NVQ or similar (as long as it's listed on the cwdc database) at level 2 or above but is easy to get either by doing the ICP replacement - CYPOP5 of the new diploma - or MNT's distance learning common core training course. Both are relatively short simple courses but obviously take time either to get on the course if waiting for a funded place from the council or similar, or time to complete/mark via distance.

First aid needs to be suitable for OFSTED - paeds specific 12 hour is fine.

She will also need liability insurance from Morton Michel or similar.

Hi Snapfrakkleandpop, I am also a nanny needed to register with OFSTED in the next couple of months, I have a job with a family and I have recently change my car insurance over to buisness with an extra add on that means the children in my care are covered if any thing should happen. Is that enough for OFSTED in terms of car insurance or does it have to be with a childcare company?
Thank you
Supernanny89

Um don't quote me, because this isn't a question I've actually asked OFSTED (for once!) but I don't think they have any control over your car insurance.

That doesn't mean however that you're not right to ask! It's not a clear area - thankfully I've never had to claim on my insurance for an accident with children in the car and when I've explained the situation I was told business use would cover me as a nanny however some exclude paying passengers and they could argue your charges are paying to be transported so that's why it's safest to get specialist insurance if there's any doubt. It sounds like you've thoroughly investigated that with your company and you're okay so should OFSTED ever inspect you and ask, which they probably won't because I haven't heard of anyone being asked about arrangements for transporting charges, you'd pretty much be covered.

As far as I understand it she needs a level 3 (not level 2) qualification

need nanny insurance

need a 12 hour peadeatric 1st aid

10% of nannies are inspected each year, and then, if you use your car for nannying they will want to see that the car is insured for buisness class 1 use.

(they have checked this with a few of my nanny friends who have had the check)

Level 2 is fine - CR4.2

oh

when i did iy 10 years ago i needed level 3

the course that was level 2 allowed people to look after children with other qualified staff...
the level 3 allowed you to do it alone

OFSTED haven't been registering nannies for 10 years. The question is about OFSTED registration.

You're quite correct that level 2 is to work supervised, level 3 is sole practioner/supervisory as far as nurseries go but OFSTED only require either common core (nominally at level 3 on the QCF but not counted as full and relevant) or a complete level 2 for the vOCR. Similarly they only require the ICP/CYPOP5 for the compulsory/EY register.

before ofstead it was sure start.... which was pretty much the same except they didnt require insurance

When one of my (completely formally unqualified) nannies did this about a year ago, she just went to a 1 day (!) course (run by MNT - www.mnttraining.co.uk/training/childcare_approval/index.htm) and got registered no problem.

Sure Start was definitely just ICP and first aid. And a slightly bizarre interview.

Did they really start 10 years ago?

Umm just thinking... was it 10 years? maybe 8 (trying to work out ages of charges i had then and now!... they have grown up lots lol!)

maybe just 8 actually

do excuse me while i go mad and post the same stuff again! blame being pg

I was nannying when it came in so don't think it was 10 - maybe 6/7? 2004ish?

I do that often