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Salary change going from nanny to nannyshare

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JinxyCat · 20/02/2011 11:01

Hi all,

Sorry, have done a bit of a search but couldn't see an exact answer.

We are paying our nanny:
£454/350 per week (gross/net)
£91/70 per day (gross/net)

We're in London, she's live in, she looks after one 2 year old Monday-Friday 8am-6.30pm.

We are looking at doing a nanny share two days a week, and I know that we should offer to pay her more for the inconvenience - but not quite sure what a 'reasonable' increase is.

I was thinking that if we increased by £20 net a day (going to £120/90) that would be reasonable.

During those share days she'd be looking after one two-year old and one seven month old - and the other Mum would be dropping her son off.

Also, if we changed so that she was working two days at the other house and three at ours - would you have to increase her wages by more than just travel expenses? (the other house is

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JinxyCat · 20/02/2011 11:02

Oh, and I was thinking that the two families would split the cost of the shared day equally - e.g. £60 each

Is that how it normally works? Or should we pay slightly less as we're providing accomodation electricity etc?

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nannynick · 20/02/2011 11:46

If the share takes place outside of your home, then you lose benefits - such as having children's washing done, beds changed that sort of thing. You also lose the ability for your child to stay in bed... they have to get up and get going to the other house. You also gain by not having all the stuff that would accompany the other children, plus gain by having an empty house so you could work from home perhaps.

Why do you want to do a share... what is the purpose? I would guess that you want to reduce the cost YOU pay.

JinxyCat · 20/02/2011 12:22

You're right nannynick - the purpose is to reduce the costs that we pay as I'm about to go on maternity leave and I'm hopeful that I can find a way to keep our lovely nanny on

But also to help my friend out who is going back to work two days a week and is struggling to find a childminder and wants something other than nursery.

I know we'd lose all the benefits that you've mentioned in terms of all the extra stuff our nanny does if she went and looked after the other child at our friends - but initial thoughts are that our friend would drop off her son at ours, and tbh - our son getting up late is not a problem, 7am wakeups are a lie in at our house ;)

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oldgreybird · 25/02/2011 16:11

I work in the childcare recruitment field and I find that most live-out nannies in London doing a nanny share get approx £2 net more per hour than the rate they would get working for just one family. This is assuming they are looking after 2 families children on the same days.

A live-in nanny is likely to want a similar increase if she is going to be looking after 2 families children at the same time and especially if she is going to be doing the share in the other share family's home rather than the live-in family's.

It is up to you how you split the costs because the nanny is your nanny and the other family has to fit in with what you want. Of course you should be reasonable about this but at the same time they are joining a tried and trusted relationship and are paying for that peace of mind and the fact that your nanny is your employee and you have all the associated responsibilities that entails.

So work out what you want to pay the nanny for doing the share and then work out how much of that you are going to charge the share family. For instance, if you decide to pay the nanny £90 net per day, then you should charge the share family at least 50% of that. That's £45 net per day which is an absolute bargain for a live out nanny share which is effectively what it is for them.

I would charge the share family a bit more - maybe £50 net per day which is still good value for them as it is under the normal rate they would pay when splitting the costs of an average live out nanny share in London (which is usually £55 net per day per family if splitting equally).

Hopefully, everyone should be happy - the nanny gets a decent increase in her wage, the share family gets a bargain and you get to save quite a lot. Hope that all makes sense!

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