nanny pay in SW London

[WonderingStar]

sorry, I know the question on pay has been asked here a lot - I did search but there were too many posts to go through!

I am looking for a nanny to work an 8 hour day, 3 days a week, for the next 6 months.

Any ideas on what I should be paying please? Everything round here is expensive and I suspect I won't be able to afford it.

In terms of salary £12-15 gross per hour would be reasonable for your area. Then you have employers NI, kitty etc.

You may get a less experienced nanny for less but short days, short timescale of the job and 3 days a week all conspire to hike rhe salary up.

Your best bet is to type your postcode into gumtree or search ads on nannyjob to see what the average wage is but be aware may jobs are advertised net to nannies which doesn't reflect the cost to you as an employer.

If you don't mind my asking, whereabouts in SW London are you?

Where are you? I'm looking for work in the Richmond area and most of the jobs I'm looking at seem to be around £10 net per hour. Depending on location this can vary enormously! I've seen jobs at around £8.50 up to £12 net per hour. Plus if the days you are after are changable (mon-wed-fri one week, tues-thurs-fri the next for example) you'd probably have to pay considerably more as the nanny wouldn't be able to find work on the other days.

I'd suggest posting an ad on gumtree and putting salary negociable or according to experience or good rate of pay offered etc then seeing what nannies are looking for for those hours.

thanks Samedi, I'm further east than Richmond. I've found 2 childminders with vacancies so am going to see them first as I think the nanny option is just going to be too expensive sadly. Plus I will be working from home and I think ds will find that very difficult as he is very clingy with me.

I've recruited nannies several times in the last few years, in the fringes of London, and it has varied a lot. Examples of expectations were:

20 years+ experience, qualified, English native speaker, Ofsted registered - £13 gross/h

6 years+ experience, no qualifications, non-English native speaker, Ofsted registered - £12 gross/h

2 years experience outside the UK, non-English native, no qualifications or Ofsted reg - £9 gross/h

(all sole charge, live out, not shared, 30 to 40 hours a week over 3 or 4 days)

I found that native English speakers tend to expect higher pay. Obviously, less experienced/qualified nannies expect less.

8 hour day is quite short for a nanny (usuallly it's 10 to 12 hours) so you might have to pay more per hour.

When you're trying to find out average pay in your area, bear in mind that when people say "net" pay, it doesn't necessarily mean that they will pay, or expect to be paid, tax + NI on top. Even though some jobs are advertised with a high net pay (say £12 net), it may actually be paid cash in hand (and the nanny may be happy with that). Whereas if you pay tax properly on top of £12 net, it's more like £14 or £15 gross.

£9-£10 net for a 10 hr day in SW London so I would say £10 net at least. For a 3 day job not paying tax is really taking a bit of a chance IMO. remember if you disagree with her down the line, she has an awfully big bit of dirt on you.

Another option is to employ a nanny on a 'self employed basis' where s/he is responsible for their own tax.

A self-employed nanny couldn't do a regular job with regular hours like that though, they'd have to be employed. A self-employed nanny would do maternity nursing, ad hoc work, emergency cover - that kind of thing.

And besides the fact you're opening yourself to a £3k fine if you get found out a SE nanny isn't going to be any cheaper because they still have to factor in tax and NI into their rates.