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New to all this- Help on nanny questions please.

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nightfall · 29/01/2011 09:18

Morning.
New to this site and have been reading a lot on here about hiring a nanny. Been great but my head is swimming with so much information now :)
I am looking at getting a nanny when I go back to work in April as I have to be out the house by 7:15 and am struggling to find a childminder who can take both children at that time. Doing about 8-9 hours a day.

All I really want the nanny to do is look after the children, so not asking for simple housework to be done. I will have organised food already for the day. Just ask she cleans up after them and gives them snacks etc.

I live in Hertfordshire and was thinking about £7:50 an hour before tax?

How do I set up all the tax, NI for them? I will be doing this myself and although read some threads on here am still confused.

Also my other problem is, although I start in April I only work for 12 days and have the rest of April off. What do I do about this?

I don't really want to be in the house but can't always make myself scares and can't really ask her to not work. I have tried to get family to look after them for these days but with no luck.

Would the nanny find it awkward if I was around a bit?

Also how qualified should the nanny be? I want first aid trained and experience with babies ( DD will be 9 months) but do I need to think about anything else?

Sorry for all the questions, the more I read the more daunting the process seems.

Thank you

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nannynick · 29/01/2011 09:58

All I really want the nanny to do is look after the children, so not asking for simple housework to be done. I will have organised food already for the day. Just ask she cleans up after them and gives them snacks etc.

Not sure that is really a good idea. It creates a lot of work for you and does not give the nanny much to do... they may get a bit bored. Also things will change over time. Currently your DD is 9 months, so food is quite easy. In a years time she will be eating more and it would be nice for nanny and your DD to be eating the same thing, so your DD gets to copy an adult eating.

I live in Hertfordshire and was thinking about £7:50 an hour before tax?

Do you mean £7.50 Gross (before tax deductions)? If so then that's a bit low I think for a qualified, experienced nanny. It may be possible to find someone who has just left college, or in say their 2nd nanny job. But if you want someone with baby experience then you may need to offer more than that.

However, it is a figure you have come up with so I guess it is what the budget is, so advertise the job and see what applicants you get. You need to keep in mind things like annual reviews, activities costs, travel on duty costs, so the salary may change over time.

How do I set up all the tax, NI for them? I will be doing this myself and although read some threads on here am still confused.

As it's your first time, I suggest using a payroll agency such as www.payefornannies.co.uk who will sort if out for you (fee is around £125 a year). Once you get a bit more used to it, you could stop using them and produce payslips yourself using info from HMRC.

Also my other problem is, although I start in April I only work for 12 days and have the rest of April off. What do I do about this?

Nannies are paid all year round generally. So you could see if nanny could take some of their holiday entitlement, especially if some of those days you are not working are over Easter.

I don't really want to be in the house but can't always make myself scares and can't really ask her to not work.

Nannies are used to having employers around at home from time to time. Your DD however may find it a lot harder as she is at typical separation anxiety age. Best to just go with the flow and spend time with your DD and also spend time on your own. Another reason for adding some household duties such as nanny helping with the washing.

Also how qualified should the nanny be? I want first aid trained and experience with babies ( DD will be 9 months) but do I need to think about anything else?

It is hard to know really. It's more about someone having common sense - which isn't taught on a course. First Aid training is important when working with babies, as they can stop breathing and can rapidly go downhill when ill. You want someone who will interact with your DD, who understands babies and also isn't afraid of toddlers - is used to dealing with toddler tantrums. These things often come down to Experience, rather than qualifications. So look more towards what experience a person has with babies and toddlers. Qualifications are useful however if you are able to use Childcare Vouchers or any other childcare funding scheme.

Do you need someone who drives? I think the answer to that is YES, because unless they live very near you and can walk - they will be needing to get to your home very early in the morning.

Blondeshavemorefun · 29/01/2011 13:17

nick has covered most of it, only thing i would disagree with is that i wouldnt be happy taking MY holiday 2 weeks into a job

i am willing and able to work and just because mum isnt working shouldnt mean i have to use my holiday iyswim

you can either give time off paid/ask nanny to come in but do shorter hours/go and see a friend/go shopping/haircut/gym etc or say that job will be 12 days then 2weeks off unpaid (tho some nannies may say no as cant afford not not be paid for 2 weeks) and start properly in may/

nightfall · 29/01/2011 14:23

Thank you for the information, I should point out this is only a temporary position for about 3 months while I go back and fulfil my maternity pay.

Guess the question is how low ( before tax) can I go so I know if I can afford it. I did have in my head a child minder but most only start at 8am.

If I do ask for things to be done around the house what do they normally do?

I was thinking time off paid or shorter hours as I do think it is unfair to start a job then have 2 weeks off unpaid.

Thank you both you have given me a lot to think about.

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eastmidlandsnightnanny · 29/01/2011 14:42

With regards to only needing for 12 days then not needing for rest of april - as you only need a nanny for 3mths I would just pay for the whole time give that time off paid as their holiday entitlement for the 3mths (yes it will be over what they are entitled too but it wouldnt be their choice of annual leave).

Or advertise for a temp nanny to cover 1st 12 days and then once you go back for the remaining time but pay a slighter higher hrly rate.

£7.50 an hr gross would be ok for nanny looking for 1st job ie newly qualified or a nursery nurse looking for first nanny job but they are unlikely to be looking for temp job you may be better looking for a nanny with own child who has some nanny experience and they would be more willing to do the hrs required with the gap in middle unpaid (I only say this as an experienced nanny with own child if I was taking him to work I would expect £8-£9 an hr when I normally charge £10-£12 an hr - not that I have done any work taking him with me.)

StarExpat · 29/01/2011 20:34

I've never been able to choose my own holidays. Im a teacher, not a nanny but I'd think s/he should be ok with taking holiday for the time you won't need her at the start.

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