First Aid Training

[nannynick]

Anyone else on a First Aid course this week?

I'm currently posting from Weybridge, not the usual venue for First Aid courses as there is a St Johns nearer to home but alas they were not running a course this month or next month.

Think I've been doing these courses for the past 21 years. They do change a bit from time to time.

Won't any duplicate book do, nick? Agree about the cross, date, initial. I suspect the NCMA do specific forms for childminders.

I suspect if I were ever responsible for a serious accident I'd also follow the same procedures I would for suspected child abuse and deposit a sealed, postmarked copy with a lawyer or in a safe deposit box in a bank.

I am with you nanny7 it has gone mad. Iam going to carry on as I am untill someone tells me otherwise. I went into nannying to
look after children not to do admin work.

Blondes I wish i did not need to be ofsted registered hope you can carry on as you are it is a complete waste of time Ihave always wworked with out it untill now, its only so my boss can claim back tax.

cinpin - i would register, but neither mb/db companys use the voucher scheme, so no point

but from the hassle friends say about it, im glad im not

though who knows in the next job

I have spoken to morton michel(insurance company) and with ofsted.
Neither of them have heard of this for Nannies. Ofsted says child minders should keep records and oddly enough say to be kept for 2 years!
Insurance said that if a claim was made then if you were insured at the time of the accident then you will still be covered 20 years from then.
So in the future if any child in my care has an accident which is more then a minor graze to the knee,then for peace of mind I will keep a record of it and a copy of my policy no for the insurance.

morton michel sell self copying accident records...... I have them in my childminders folder.

NCMA told me to keep all child related records until that child reachers 21.

I guess I will be keeping a lot of paperwork over the years 20 - 30 years then!

Morton Michel told me that you have have to inform then of any accidents that require professional treatment (so not little grazes, bruises etc). I guess it comes down largely to common sense

Paula, deft needs common sense!! I am a nanny though so the advice from morton michel is different for me, as I work from the childs home and not my own.(although accidents can happen anywhere.)
If anything major happens shall record it and get parents to sign and keep for the next 20 odd years!!

Yes spoke to my insurance company they said you do not need to keep an accident book. Also spoke to a solicitor who said dont worry about it especially if you were insured at the time, if not insured keep an accident record if it was a hospital visit just to cover yourself.

I keep all things in the bathroom up very high so even I can't reach and I supervise the children I mind.

I keep chemical/polishes/dishwasher stuff in the garage on shelf above washing machine and NO CHILD is allowed in the there on their own as it opens onto the drive and then onto the close roadway. OFSTED were fine with this when I had an inspection.

As far as felt-tips and crayons in the lounge are concerned the child would be strung up by its feet if it was caught drawing on my suite!

Oh Dear! I have asked a relative who is also a solicitor about this and she has gone through my insurance and pointed out that no where does it say I haxe to have an official accident book. Also as nannies are not self employed our employer's would normally be responsible for insurance. Surestart did not require public liability insurance but Ofsted do! I asked them if I needed to keep an accident book and was told there was no lawful requirement for nannies to do so.

I do of course keep a record of any accidents (of which there have been few in my 28 years as a nanny!)

I am more interested in providing good quality care than writing six pages in duplicate about little sam's grazed knee.The world has gone MAD!

employer's would normally be responsible for insurance.

Yes and No.
Employers are responsible for having Employers Insurance.

A nanny should have Public Liability insurance to cover them for something they do. In the event of a claim, it would be the employer making the claim against the nanny thus not a good idea for the employer to be paying the policy cost.

We never know what insurance really covers until a claim is made, so it's ultimately up to each individual to decide what level of cover they wish to have. Regulator just imposes a minimum level.

Saturday tomorrow... another fun day of First Aid Training. Different trainer expected this time, as the one last week was covering for someone else.