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almostmadeitto2011 · 27/12/2010 16:36

My dh and I are to go away for 5 days in February.

We would like a nanny to look after the children aged 6 and 14.

Does anyone know how this works pay wise?

My thoughts are:

Monday 14-Feb 6.30am 8.30am 2 7.5 15
8.30am 5.30pm 9 5 45
5.30pm 9.30pm 4 7.5 30
9.30pm 6.30am 9 5 45
Tuesday 15-Feb 6.30am 8.30am 2 7.5 15
8.30am 5.30pm 9 5 45
5.30pm 9.30pm 4 7.5 30
9.30pm 6.30am 9 5 45
Wednesday 16-Feb 6.30am 8.30am 2 7.5 15
8.30am 5.30pm 9 5 45
5.30pm 9.30pm 4 7.5 30
9.30pm 6.30am 9 5 45
Thursday 17-Feb 6.30am 8.30am 2 7.5 15
8.30am 5.30pm 9 5 45
5.30pm 9.30pm 4 7.5 30
9.30pm 6.30am 9 5 45
Friday 18-Feb 6.30am 8.30am 2 7.5 15
8.30am 5.30pm 9 5 45
600

The children are both at school 8.30-5.30, and there would be no school run.

We will be back Friday lunchtime, and leave Monday morning.

Any thoughts on this gratefully received.

We are in the South not London.

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Blondeshavemorefun · 27/12/2010 17:14

basically you are saying £135 per 24hrs

to me, that seems very low, when i do proxy parenting i charge £20 per 24hrs but im old Grin and have years of experience

dont forget you are leaving your children in someones else's care and trust for nearly a week - so tbh you will not be employing a teenager and therefore your budget may go up

i can see how you have worked it out and yes seems fair if you find someone happy to work for £7.50 per hr during waking hours and £5 when at school/sleeping

have fun - i think all parents need some me time :)

ojmummy · 27/12/2010 17:16

I did similar to this a couple of yrs ago (in affluent village in the Midlands) for 2 boys ages 5 and 9 and got £60per day, so for a 5 day week got £300.

I dropped at school for around 8am & picked up around 5pm so had sole charge between 5pm and 8am (did school run of 25mins each way).

I did eve meal, homework, baths, sorted uniform & sports kits etc, childrens washing, tidying, put bins out, prepared breakfasts etc. The Mum had bought in food for me so I had breakfast, eve meal and any snacks I wanted whilst at the house. I got an extra £25 for petrol which was prob more or less what I had spent on petrol.

I would not have been expected to collect from school if children ill or stay home during day if children ill (other plan in place incase this happened).

If I did this now I would prob be looking for around £80-£100 per night as have more experience on my CV and have put my rates up a couple of times since then & would deff expect more if I needed to be available during the daytimes.

I would say £600 for the week sounds fair if you are expecting nanny to be available in the daytimes if needed.

almostmadeitto2011 · 27/12/2010 17:25

Ah I wouldn't need them to be available during the day to cover, I just thought I'd have to pay during the day some sort of retainer.

No travel planned involved, but if necessary could provide a petrol kitty for week. But the kids get collected and dropped at house.

Plenty of food in our house (often commented on by friends/family that they come round to our house as always goodies, and proper food in the house Grin)

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ojmummy · 27/12/2010 17:31

If definitely not needed between 8.30am and 5.30pm I personally would do this for £80 per night if within a reasonable distance from my house (& assuming children not in the habit of too much night waking or anything like that!) so that'd be £400 for the 5 days, I think £600 is generous but maybe thats because I am in the Midlands??...
Where abouts in the South are you?

Blondeshavemorefun · 27/12/2010 17:34

tbh you do need to pay a retainer during the day as it is unlikely they would find other nannying work to go around the hours you need - but i would call on them if children were ill

also check that they def are at school as several schools near me as off that week for ht

almostmadeitto2011 · 27/12/2010 17:35

Ok different suggestions here:

Don't pay for day:
£10 for wake hours 6:30-8:30 5:30-9:30
£7.5 for babysitting hours 9:30-12:30
£5 for sleeping hours 12:30-6:30

(Of course I don't care if the carer goes to bed at 9.30 or 1.30)

Total for week £465

Or pay for day but pay better care rate:
£10 for wake hours 6:30-8:30 5:30-9:30
£5 for down time/sleeping time 8:30-5:30 9:30-6:30
Total for week £665

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nannynick · 27/12/2010 17:35

I wouldn't need them to be available during the day to cover

Why not?

If something happened during the day, would you come back from where you are going?

Nannying isn't paid on a per-hour with children basis. What you are looking at I feel is 24 hour care, starting at whatever time needed on the Monday morning (or Sunday evening), finishing on whatever time on the Friday afternoon/evening.

almostmadeitto2011 · 27/12/2010 17:36

Schools definitely open. Half term the following week. Hampshire/Dorset border.

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almostmadeitto2011 · 27/12/2010 17:39

I would only need youngest looked after during the day, and there are people I could use if necessary during the day.

Sorry I was meaning if it was going to be a deal breaker I could sort it.

Is it best to advertise it then as:
£x amount for the week - once I've settled on what my x amount is?

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almostmadeitto2011 · 27/12/2010 17:40

As a temporary position would I be able to use a SE nanny who sorts out their own tax?

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nannynick · 27/12/2010 17:46

Having done 2 weeks of what you are describing (the children were 5 and 7 at the time, it was many years ago), I can say that based on my experience children can have a tummyache at school and be sent home.

From what I remember, I was combining it with being at college - college were relaxed about the hours I did as they saw the job being great experience (I was on a childcare course). So in the event of a child needing care during the day, I could simply not go to college.

Also if the person is around some of the daytime, they can do some household tasks - such as trying to keep on top of the washing.

Yes, I would suggest advertising it as a specific amount for the week.

mama77 · 27/12/2010 17:51

were are you based?

nannynick · 27/12/2010 18:02

would I be able to use a SE nanny who sorts out their own tax?

Problem is most nannies are not SE.

HMRC: Special - Temps who work for less than a week

cinpin · 27/12/2010 20:19

I do this kind of thing and what you are paying seems about right.

Yes some nannies are south employed.

Simplyme · 27/12/2010 23:31

Gee blondes you're cheaper than I thought at £20 per 24 hours!

Are you thinking of upping your rates come January? Wink

Blondeshavemorefun · 28/12/2010 01:18

Ha ha simply me

Slight cock up there Grin

try adding Another 0 - £200 per 24hrs

mranchovy · 28/12/2010 02:09

Your best bet is probably one of the big agencies. Their temps will either be self employed or employed through the agency so no tax worries for you.

I'd expect closer to Blondes' £200 than £135 a day though, plus a hefty agency fee.

GoldFrakkincenseAndMyrrh · 28/12/2010 09:56

If you use a SE temp by definition they set the terms, which means they're going to quote you a rate which covers their time including tax/NI.

I come in slightly cheaper than blondes but not much for 24 hour care and she has 10 years at least experience on me! I'd say your look at least £150/24 hours and whilst an agency would simplify things that too comes at a price.

If it were holiday time you'd be able to find a student/nanny who works term time only and that might have been cheaper. As it is you're looking at an out of work nanny willing to take a booking in advance or a temp/maternity nanny who has a gap to fill.

Blondeshavemorefun · 28/12/2010 10:43

'prods frakk' shussssssssssssh - that makes me feel old having 10yrs more exp lol

Blondeshavemorefun · 28/12/2010 10:45

meant to add, why not have a look on your local netmums and see if there is a nanny looking for work - esp if they have a half term off

you can also put your own ad on there to see what responses you get

jendifa · 28/12/2010 12:59

I'd be happy to do it, looking for temp work at the moment, before finishing PGCE from Easter onwards. Lots of nannying/proxy parenting, plus almost a primary teacher. Message me if you're interested.

Jenny

eastmidlandsnightnanny · 28/12/2010 14:31

I think if you would consider a nanny with own child you would find someone more experienced.

I normally charge £200 per 24hrs for proxy parenting due to my experience and qualifications.

However as I have my own baby now I would happily do the hours you require for around £600-£700 if I was able to bring my own baby to work with me.

I am in east midlands though so no use to you sorry!!

poshtottie · 28/12/2010 18:36

I would be interested. I have my own child but dh will be home to look after him. I am in Dorset. I am self-employed. Normally work as a maternity nurse but have been a nanny. PM if interested. Smile

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