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Nanny getting other people to drive my DD without my permission - nanny perspective please

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Snoosmoo · 02/12/2010 13:16

THis is my first ever post so apologies if I am being unreasonable (I am 37 weeks pregnant so accept that I may be being hormonal and mad) but is this normal/acceptable and what should I do?
I have employed a relatively mature and experienced nanny for the last year (three days a week, £110 a day net) to look after my DD1 3.9 and DD2 1.11. This is our first ever nanny and we have been very pleased with how things were going. But since I have been on maternity leave for the past 4 weeks things have rapidly gone downhill. The problem is that my nanny does not want me around at all and really wants me to hide in my bedroom while she is here. When I have offered to eg pick one of the children up from pre-school to save the little one a cold trip out or that she could leave her with me while she did the pick-up she has nearly bitten my head off and said she didn't want to disturb their routine. Her argument is that when she's there she should continue to do things exactly as she'd do them if I was at work. Whereas in an ideal world I would have liked to spend a little one-on-one time with my DDs before the arrival of the new baby.
So anyway today is very snowy, nanny had complained how difficult it was to get in so I said nanny should come in later and I'd take DD2 to her music class. Meet nanny afterwards as they had arranged a playdate with a local mother with a DD the same age as DD2 whose older child is roughly a contemporary of my DD1 at pre-school (although they don't know each other particularly well and aren't in the same class). I am surprised when nanny and DD2 arrive home relatively early as that's the pick-up time for DD1. Nanny says oh I asked Other Mother to pick her up. I know Other Mother always drives so I say has she got a spare car seat. Nanny says I don't know but she's got a big car (!!).
Now is this acceptable nanny behaviour? I am very pissed off at nanny.

  1. I would happily have picked up DD1 myself but nanny would get in a sulk about this
  2. I do not want relative strangers picking up my children without my permission unless there was some sort of emergency
  3. it is important to me that she always has a proper car seat and is strapped in safely

I went out to meet them when they arrived and my DD WAS in a car seat. But only because the Other Mother had (v kindly) put her own DS in an ordinary adult seatbelt and let my DD have his normal one. But the mother said my DD had been very upset at pre-school to be picked up totally unexpectedly by a virtual stranger. THe pre-school staff had to do lots of reassuring and let her bring home stuffed animals from pre-school to even get her to go in the car.

I would like to speak to the nanny about this and tell her that a) I'll pick DD1 up if the weather's too bad for nanny to go b) I expect her to do the pick ups herself unless agreed with me in advance c) car seat issue

Am I being unreasonable. I am a bit scared to talk to her about this as she has been quite difficult over my mat leave (I raised the issue of my spending some one-on-one time with my DDs. She basically said it was a terrible idea which would only make them upset. I know it's important not to have 2 adults around doing the same thing but don't see why it would be such a terrible thing for me to take one eg swimming while the other one is at a playdate with nanny.

What do you think?

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frakkinup · 02/12/2010 16:31

Oooh I don't know euracantha - there are some pretty mature nannies here with grown up children themselves. I'm not one of them but I know at least 1 nanny on this thread has talked about doing a nanny job with their own child who is now at least 19.

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/12/2010 16:35

why thank you euracantha - and yes you are the oldest nanny i know

'trudges away laughing in the snow'

euracantha · 02/12/2010 16:42

You`re luckyyou can trudge through your snow,I had to dig a path for the cat to go out the snow was over his back, how much have you got Blondes?
Thanks Frankkinup:}

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/12/2010 16:42

12inches and rising

Danthe4th · 02/12/2010 16:51

I agree with everyone and would also add that the pre-school should NOT allow anyone other than the named people that usually collect the child to take the child home without prior warning and a password. Ofsted would go nuts!!

surrealreality · 02/12/2010 16:53

I work for parents who are around all the time except when they decide to be out and it can be very hard but they are the principals and I do my job around whatever plans they make. If they want to spend time with DC then they inform me and I do something else. Your nanny seems to have forgotten this one if I have read this correctly.

Personally I never leave my charges with anybody else (even to go to the loo) and would never authorise anybody else to drive them unless I had both verbal and written permission from my employers. If they had authorised it themselves that would be different.

You need to talk to her and make it plain exactly who is boss and that you do not find her behaviour or attitude acceptable

nbee84 · 02/12/2010 16:57

She's 22 now, Frakk. And finished at uni and got herself her first proper job! Boy, do I feel old Shock Grin

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/12/2010 17:46

Danthe4th - that's what I said

Nbee84 - 'whispers' how old are you?

nbee84 · 02/12/2010 18:04

Actually not that old. I was a young Mum - had my daughter when I was 19, so I'm 41 now. (but does depend on your perception of old - when I was in my early 20's - 40 was v old Grin)

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/12/2010 19:15

Well as I'm not in my early 20's and actually in my middle to late 30's 'blonds gulps' 41 isn't that old

So again I say that eura is the oldest nanny I know Grin on here and the rw

nbee84 · 02/12/2010 19:28
Grin
nannyl · 02/12/2010 20:21

Im a nanny

no you are NOT being unreasonable!!!

(I thought i was going to post that you are based on the title, but you are definitely not!)

euracantha · 02/12/2010 20:35

Be kind Blondes I`ve got a birthday on Sunday
sob sob.

ichangedmymindagain · 03/12/2010 11:08

NO you are not being unreasonable, they are YOUR children .:-)

nebee84,slightly older and my daughter is 21yrs . have been a nanny for over 30 years , some of my charges are now older than i was when i started work , scary ..

StillSquiffy · 03/12/2010 13:38

Whilst i have no problem with other parents giving my kids lifts if I arrange it myself, I would consider a nanny arranging something without my knowledge or permission to be an act of gross negligence.

An to be honest I wouldn't be having a quiet chat, I would be reading the riot act and giving at the very least a formal warning. I would find it difficult to re-establish trust in such a situation.

HIJACK ALERT. Hello, there, page 62 and Strix . When the abominable snow has gone and strix is up for it, shall we do a 7oaks Pizza Express catch-up with the kids one Sunday?

Page62 · 03/12/2010 14:00

HIJACK. waves back to stillsquiffy and strix. Happy to meet up but early pregnancy woes (only 10 weeks) and have already been hospitalised for hyperemesis and severe dehydration. No sign of abating and I predict I'll be back within a week. But when fighting form, looking forward to meet up. Still on same email so we can stop hijacking thread.

Sorry everyone!

Blondeshavemorefun · 03/12/2010 14:04

see again as i said i have organized lifts before without asking mb permission

the way i see it is that she trusts me to make the right judgement - obv i wouldnt ask anyone but people i know and trust and obv know they have car seats in their car

ie babs was asleep and another mum was picking up from school early in the snow for me rather than me wake up tired grumpy teething cold infested babs

ps if you do a pizza express etc meet up, i would love to pop along to say hi - obv page has met me Xmas Smile

Strix · 03/12/2010 14:57

Oh oh oh..... Page62 is pregnant! GrinGrinGrin

Misery enjoys company you know.

1 week, 6 days... and yes I'm counting!

I am planning to be fully recovered by about the 2nd week of Jan. So any time from there onward is good for me.

(oh and I am also planning to get rip roaring pissed at some point in January if anyone fancies that outing)

frakkinup · 03/12/2010 16:26

Hmmm...getting pissed sounds tempting but being a) on the other side of the world and b) up the duff makes that unlikely. I shall be with you in spirit. Gin, most likely.

I can't believe you've less than 6 weeks to go Strix - I remember popping onto a random thread and you were talking about childcare for DC3, of which we had no knowledge, not so long ago.

Blondeshavemorefun · 03/12/2010 16:41

strix has less than 2 weeks, not 6 tho maybe 4 if babs is 2 weeks late and needs to be induced

'blondes runs very fast'

page,as i said via email,many congrats am sorry you are suffering badly and if i can be of any help then holler xx

Strix · 03/12/2010 19:39

I will be NOT be going overdue. The lease is up very shortly and eviction is arranged for 16th December... just in time for Christmas.

Pram and car seat contraption assembled last night, and I am now ready. :-)

Page, when are you due?

Sorry you are suffering. When I was about 10 weeks I spend the weekend in Squiffy's kichen with an ice pack tucked inside a ski headband thingy to try and relieve my migraine. I'm sure she has had more eciting house guests. Blush

Anyway, hope you are better soon. Fingers crossed for you. Grin

And, frak, are you pregnant too??

Blondeshavemorefun · 03/12/2010 22:25

Pmsl@eviction strix - hope all goes well :)

frakkinup · 04/12/2010 08:47

Yep 21 weeks.

You're (sensibly) having an ELCS aren't you, Strix? IIRC you're 'due' Christmas Day itself.

6 weeks is my horizon (I have no idea why). When there's less than 6 weeks to go it's really, really close! Not that I can imagine even getting there in my panic at being just over half way and having nothing sorted.

Strix · 04/12/2010 11:20

Actually, when there are less than 6 weeks to go you will have found true misery. I'm so fed up with having to choose between bending over and breathing! Not to mention heart burn, achy back and the realisation that the scale now says 11 F*ing stone. Shock

'tis crap! Sad

I am a little crabby. Can you tell?

1 week, 5 days.... tap tap tap...

GoldFrakkincenseAndMyrrh · 04/12/2010 11:24

Lalalalala

And you're having an early eviction?

Jeez I'm likely to go over if family history is anything to go by :( so I'll be wallowing in misery. And baby will be huge by that point cos DH isn't exactly fairylike.

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