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how to train as nanny/cm?

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oops · 19/09/2005 13:22

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kcemum · 19/09/2005 13:35

To look after your children in your own home she would have to train as a nanny, childminders look after children in the minders home.

oops · 19/09/2005 13:39

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kcemum · 19/09/2005 13:41

I'm afraid I have no idea as I'm a childminder. Somebody will be along later to give the correct advice. hth

oops · 19/09/2005 13:50

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katymac · 19/09/2005 14:25

There is some info on the NCMA website (NCMA.org.uk) about nannies

I think they need the first aid course Between £60 and about £120 to pay for your self - but often it is funded.

Not sure about other courses, sorry

nannynick · 19/09/2005 14:51

Ok, so I'm a little lost here, so let me go though a few things.

Childminders care for children in their (the childminders) home, usually. Nannies care for children in the child's home.

Childminders in England need to do an ICP course, it's a short course often done a few hours each week over a period of a term (I think). They also need to have a first aid certificate. Their home is inspected by someone from Ofsted and background checks are done for the childminder and all over 16's in the household, before a certificate is issued. Childminders are then routinely inspected for compliance with National Standards.

Nannies do not need to be qualified, or experienced. Anyone can call themselves a nanny!
However, a lot of nannies are qualified in childcare and child development and in First Aid. Nannies these days also have an Enhanced CRB Disclosure like a childminder.

Therefore, your current mothers help could be your nanny right now. If you want your mothers help to learn about child development, behaviour etc, then contact a local further education college and enquire about childcare courses. You will find that there are different levels of qualification these days, NVQ level 3 is the one most useful for future employment in the childcare sector, though it can take several years to gain.

Does that help much?

katymac · 19/09/2005 15:46

But to be eligible for the childcare tax credits nannies need to re-register under a new scheme.....which involves a first aid course and some other stuff (that's what's on the NCMA site)

NannyL · 19/09/2005 20:28

OK.... if YOU want ehr to be your nanny and are happy with it she does not need to trains at all....

you just employ her....

however it may be beneficail for her and you if she did...

I would recommend doing NVQ level 3 in eraly years care and education (which qualifies you to look after children by yourself (sole charge) and is V use ful for childminders,a dn youy would need this to work in a nurasry.

You can do this in a year (i did a couple of yers back at a local college) most courses are 2 years and require you to take NVQ level 2 first... but if you have lots of childcare experiance (and are working pretty much full time) in a childcar setting it should be fine (was fine for me... i think you had to be pretty bright tho to be accepted for it... i had a degree so that was not an issue for me!)

If i were you phone local colleges NOW i know my course started mid sept (was 3 hours for 1 evening a week from sept - may not including school hols) so she may be able to get onto the course having only missed one week (or else she may have to wait another whole year until next sept)

Its a course where you need tobe assessed practically as well as written work so you need to be happy for her to use your children to be assessed with, and also may have to write a few statements about her for her portfolio.... and sign written accounts of things she ahs done to show that they are true etc

If you are happy with that then that should be the path to follow....

also if she qualifies with a level 3 qualification and has a police check and 1st aid certificate then you can claim some money back from your employer (some confusing government scheme that started april 04)

NannyL · 19/09/2005 20:29

please excuse my random typing and random bold words.... ??

ThePrisoner · 19/09/2005 20:42

Oops - I assume she has no children of her own? Whilst it would be great to persuade her to do some formal training, doing an NVQ Level 3 is pretty heavy going unless she really does intend to make a career out of it.

NannyL · 19/09/2005 20:48

have to say i found the NVQ level 3 VERY easy... only took a few hours a week max!

ThePrisoner · 19/09/2005 20:52

But do you think someone would do it if they're not intending to make a career in childcare?

oops · 20/09/2005 21:07

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Pol25 · 24/09/2005 17:50

Nannies do not have to be qualified- anyone can be a nanny and i'm sure you've read some horror stories on some ppl who call themselves nannies.
I am now a sahm but was a nanny for over 5yrs and I have a GNVQ level three in health and social care- at the time I thought about going into nursing so did not take the NNEB, or whatever it is now. I have my first aid cert and food hygiene. Firstly I worked as a mums help to get alittle experience while I was studying at college and worked with special needs.
I think the most importantr thing when you hire a nanny is that the two of you can be 'friends' and you get along. It is really important that you trust your nanny as you are leaving your most precious possesions with her- your babies!
Good luck!

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