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Trying to claim 15 hours gvt funding for pre school and shift work

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vixen1 · 29/10/2010 09:29

Hi all,

I work shifts, my DH works office hours. As a result my children attend the childminder's anywhere from 2 days a week to 5 days a week and anything inbetween.

We're looking at how our finances will improve once they get their 15 hours a week paid for by the Government but we're not going to be saving anything like as much as we thought because it seem we can't claim our full allocation because there are weeks where they're only at the childminder's for 2 days.

I completely understand the issues faced by our childminder in that we can only claim a full allocation if they're there for three days but from our point of view we are being heavily financially penalised because our children aren't there as often as they could be some weeks.
This just seems ludicrous to me - that we have to pay more because our children are there less for some weeks.

It's not even a simple case of just sending them there for a third day because that would mean we pay less and Gvt pays more so our childminder would receive the same payment in that month however she would be providing more childcare.

I just don't get it. We've been really struggling financially recently and this was meant to be my light at the end of the tunnel. I feel a bit sick now because I just don't know how to get round this, it seems SO unfair.

Any advice? How do other shift workers do it??

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JarethTheGoblinKingsTIGHTS · 29/10/2010 09:34

Our nursery have suggested that I can put DS in for an extra half day to use up his full allocation (he'll be on 2 full days from January) but personally for us it's not worth it.

I don't really understand why you couldn't up your days with the childminder to 3 or more days a week, then claim the allocation for that, and then jsut pay the extra days on top (sorry if I'm missing something)

HSMM · 29/10/2010 09:34

Can't help, but I agree that the ruling about not being able to claim the full entitlement over 2 days is madness. This is some mess up by a government official not really thinking about what they were writing.

HappyMummyOfOne · 29/10/2010 17:16

Its not meant as childcare though, the free 15 hours is there to provide all pre school children access to early education - thats why there are restrictions attached.

nannynick · 29/10/2010 17:23

Can it be used to claim for your childminder at all... only some childminders are Network Childminders and provide Educational sessions.

You can use the 15 hours up between two providers, so you could use a pre-school say for 3 sessions a week, then network childminder for 2 sessions. That's if you want to use the full 15 hours - I don't think you have to use it all, do you?

dmo · 29/10/2010 18:34

i would ask your cm to claim for the 15hrs and if they dont go she is in pocket anyway

dmo · 29/10/2010 18:35

by the way you can claim 15hours over 2 days now

vixen1 · 29/10/2010 19:39

DMO - can you?? Where does it say that?

Thanks for the advice everyone. Yes, I'm aware that the funding is for Pre-school education and not childminding but our childminder is an accredited pre-school provider.

I have no shame in using the pre-school education grant in reducing my childcare costs. I get bugger all else in the way of benefits from the government...

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vixen1 · 29/10/2010 19:42

I've actually just worked out a system where I can take annual leave from work to look after my children. I can then swap the day with the childminder and book it in for a week where they are lacking in hours so we get our full allocation. We all win then because she's still proving the same hours for the same price and we have to pay less for it.

Now to sort out that leave...

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