Quick question - while I have a minute

[Saltire]

Yesterday ahd my usual 2 mindees (non sleeping one and his older brother) . The older child is 3 in December. They got here at 8.25, having ahd no breakfast, so didn't get much till 09.15 when we got back from schol.
The older one threw his lunch on the floor yesterday and his dinner. He wouldn't eat much apart from grapes and raisins.
Today, I ahve hima nd his brother - the little one is sleeping and the older one is here besdie me at lunchtable with his lunch. So far today he ahs "stolen" food from his brother, from my DS1 and myself as well as from the little girl I ahd for a couple of hours this morning. He took Ds1's toast and went behind the sofa with it. he took 2 bisucits off my plate, and took raisins and breadsticks from both his brother na dother mindee.
He had - for his breakfast (they arrived late and non breakfasted today, but a friend was taking DS2 to school so was able to give them it when they got here) 3 slices of toast, 2 weetabix and a banana. he then had apple, 4 crakcers, cheese, 2 breadsticks and some quavers for a snack.
And keeps going to kitchend oor, banging on gate saying "I want food".

How can i deal with him stealing food fro toehrs, it has happened on one 2 occasions before, usually from his brother (hwo could eat for britain), and also take toys from other children

Is he bored, Saltire? He sounds like he needs more stimulation, like he needs nursery. No offence meant, but some CMS I find are very stay-at-home types which didn't suit some of my DC well at all (other 2 DC were fine). Two of my boys by 2.5yo needed OUT of the house and lots of interaction with different people and places.

Wow, gosh!

That is a lot of food for a not yet 3 yr old.
It could be a growth spurt, or it could be coomfort eating for a multitude of reasons.

While stealing food is wrong, and you need to reinforce that, there is an underlying reason as to why its happening.

You dont say how long you've been minding them, or if any home circumstances might have changed.

Have you spoke to their parents to find out what their eating habits are at home? It could be as simple as mixed messages if mum allows him to share from her plate.

There have been a lot of problems with these two - if you've seen my previous threads you will know what I mean.

Today he walloped DS1 on the head - DS1 is at home with a massive lump on his forehead and this child hit him on teh lump with a car. he has no concept of please or thank you - it's all "I want", and crying and wailing if he doesn't get.
He has cried for food all day.
We went to mums and tots yesterday and today and I spent the whole time stopping his little "Idon'tthinknoappliestome" little brother from getting out the gate. The mums and tots place is a big room within a cafe on base, it is enclosed on 3 sides, with glass walls,a nd the thrid side is wooden gates, but one of the gates is missing, so the younger mindee kept trying to crawl out.
He needs a lot of time spent with him (if you read any other threads of mine about non-sleeping mindee you'll get the picture) and I do feel that the brother misses out a bit, but I do try and do a lot with him, outside the house.

Sorry but all I can say is why on earth do you still have these children. With the type of parents these boys have, I just couldn't continue, sorry but it would totally do my head in!! (I've read other threads! )

least lo slept

blonde likes to think every cloud has a silver lining lol

did you have 4 under 5 today? 2 brothers/your ds1 and little girl

he does sound bored, does he do nursery at all as is s rising 3?

Could it be a child protection issue.
hoarding and stealing food are a classic sign.

I work in the Social work field so probably hyper sensitive to such things but if this case passed my desk it would get my attention.

blondes - my DS1 is 12!. So I only had 3 under 5.

I did wonder. Thought you were insane a saint

poor ds1. How did he get his lump? My dc 5yr managed to run headfirst into another child yesterday and result is a black eye - bless him

I know it's money but I couldn't do your job with these 2 brothers

'blondes salutes saltire'

raindrop - I hope not :(

Having read the OP other posts and threads, I am fast coming to the view that this is heading towards a child protection issue.

The individual events on their own would not cause me great concern, but the whole overall series of events, put together, do.

But as the previous poster says, I hope not - but then again, it is very difficult to judge a situation by reading a series of threads.