Sharing another family's nanny temporarily

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DS usually goes to a nursery full time but his usual nursery is temporarily closed (long story). I have arranged cover from another nursery, but there are a couple of sessions each week where they cannot take him.

I am trying to find a family with a nanny / au pair that could look after him for those sessions, and have been lucky enough to have a couple of offers from families where their nanny is free because their children will be in school when I need help.

My question is this: do I pay the nanny (because she is working for me) or do I pay the family (because I am using their nanny at times when she is contracted to them albeit not working)? If they pay her by the hour, it's clear I should pay her for the extra hours - I'm not so sure what I should do if they pay her weekly. Obviously I'll discuss this with the family, but I want to get an idea of what is reasonable before I start.

I think it counts as separate employment, not nannyshare, because nanny isn't caring for two families at the same time. which means you have to pay the nanny, and set up a separate payroll. As it's her second job you'd have to pay tax at 20% so you need to agree a gross rate. It might also mean that the nanny overpays tax, in which case she'd need to do a tax return.

Have you thought about whether the other family would be happy about nanny not being available during the mornings to look after their sick children, or during school holidays? If they are paying nanny fully for the time that their DC are at school, then can't see what the benefit is for them to agree to this second employment (of course they could just be really nice people). Or are they paying less during that time?

I think you should pay the nanny.

hope the family has discussed asked their nanny if she minds being offered to work elsewhere :) tho sure she wont mind if hers are at school

but DEF pay the nanny

Is she still contracted to work for them and being paid by them? If so it's a share and not secondary employment.

The less legal way to do it is to pay the nanny cash direct.

The proper way is to have an agreement (pref in writing) with the other parents and the nanny that nanny is being subcontracted/seconded to you, you pay the other family a gross rate who will put it through their PAYE as overtime and nanny gets a net rate for the additional hours.

You shouldn't just pay the family - nanny deserves to be reimbursed for her extra work.