Nanny Startup - NannyNick Help?

[EmMum06]

I'm Hoping Nick might help me out with this information but any insight would be great...

As my dh is still waiting for his CRB with no end in sight I have decided to register as a nanny with the hope of completing my childminder registration when his CRB finally comes through.

I know i must:

• have my first aid certificate
• have my enhanced crb certificate
• register with Ofsted as a nanny
• have nanny insurance
• register for tax and NI purposes, I am going to pay my own tax and NI as I will be self employed

Any suggestions with regards to:

• contracts, are there any templates i could use?
• policies and procedures, i was going to amend any of my childminder ones where appropriate but are there any that are a must or that i should have as good practice?

how does this sound? am i forgetting anything?

No 'must' as a nanny as registration not compulsory. If you are registered then qualification, appropriate 1st aid, insurance etc.

Be careful of SE status - HMRC may not accept you being SE as a nanny. Talk to them, get it in writing from more than one person and make it very clear in your contracts that you're in control of the way business is run. You may have to sacrifice paid holiday and sick pay etc as those are employment benefits and HMRC might be very unhappy if you appeared employed rather than SE. The families would be the ones to pay the fine and any cash HMRC feel they're owed.

No more than 2 families at a time, technically including you as a family. Care in their home, not yours (obv).

Contracts - there are 2 on nannyjob. I recommend the 'voice' one over the websites own.

Policies and procedures not strictly necessary. Ammending CM ones would be fine.

Good luck!

Not likely that you will be self employed. Nannies are nearly always employees due to the nature of the relationship, place of work, amount of control.

What are you actually proposing to do? Are you going to go to someones house and care for their just their children no others? Or would you be having lots of random work going various peoples homes, different days of the week, varying times?

The parents provide the contract not you... as you are their employee. As a nanny you do not have control - parents have the control and say when/where you work, what you do etc.

As a nanny you don't need any policies/procedures. Ofsted require you to meet their criteria (see the relevant document), thus knowing about child protection - but no specific policy needed.

Plenty of nannies give employers a template contract if the employers don't have one, nick. And some of us are just fussy and like having our own anyway.

agree about having MY contract, it covers me for stuff like being paid if employers go away for extra time/sick pay not ssp/not paying insurance excess etc

agree you will be employed unless you are thinking of doing ad hoc, but if you work for one family and the parents dicate the days/hours etc then you are employed

tbh i dont understand why some nannies want to be se in perm jobs?

Yes, you are all completely right. I have just spent the past hour on the phone and internet and there is no way around it, providing childcare in the home of the child makes you an employee.

Back to square 1.

Why do you want to be SE?

You being an employee is not that complicated if you know the process well and can talk the parents through it.

if it was a temp job as in you were only temporary till your childminding came through then do temp nannies not get away with being self employed. presumably the family are going to use you as a childminder so they no what times you are willing to work as you told them. therefore to nanny for them at those times you would still have chosen them not the parents therefore they did not dictate it like they would have if you were an employee.

what about doing babysitting
that is SE
or night nanny
or temp work