All that's left in my living room is

[Saltire]

2 sofas and the tv stand.
I have had to remove 2 bookcases, a corner unit and a table!
The PC sits on top of the dining table - monitor, keyboard and pc unit itself.
I might have to take my curtains down too

why?

Mindee no2, also known as non sleeping mindee. Who can crawl. And can climb. He's 10 months old.

are you really considering taking the curtains down?

Yes, I am he grabs hold of them and swings on them. Even if I put them on windowsill he gets them. I don't have any way of tying curtains up out of the way either

he needs to learn no

haha cool

blondes - I know he does. However, he thinks No doesn't apply to him. 18 times in the space of 15 minutes I remvoed him fromt eh curtains ealier today. and each time he went straight back. No distraction worked, and every time I took him away he screamed in tmepr. So if he's not scremaing becasue he's tired he's screaming in temper.

sure M&D dont say no to him

LOL!Glad it's not just me!!My 14 mth old mindee has just started walking.....my new tv is in the line of fire all day! I'm sick of cleaning the fingerprints off the screen!!Unfortunately,its just perseverance-or an electric fence!! :)

Saltire contact me later on FB, I had a child like this, but dont want to talk about it on a open forum.

I have decided I am getting a playepn, I cannot turn my back for a second without this child wrecking something. He has so far
wrecked the pc, it now sits on dingingtable, so we cna't eat our meals at the table
Pulled the curtains down
He pushes the buttons on teh DVD player, it's now jammed with the word "rooT" showing on screen
He climbs - onto the sofa, but doesn't stop at the seats, he gets up onto the back
I ahve a stairgate between dining room and kitchen - he's pulled it down so many time I struggle to get it back up

If I say no, and remove him from DVD etc he just looks at me,a dn off he goes back again to touch things. I cannot get anything done. if I put him in highchair, so i can go to loo for example, he will scream the place down - and again, make himself sick.

playpen or sanity or say you cant look after him anymore

give them notice.

Was going to suggest playpen also. But having read your other thread I think I would have to give notice to preserve sanity. Bad enough when it is your own child who you love madly, but if it is someone else's must be even harder.

Saltire

Even though your childminding its still your home.

Sometimes children may do things within their own homes therefore they may think its okay to do the same at the childminders.

Yes get a play pen and put your room back how it was before

Baby is still very young therefore it may take time to learn not to......

I agree that the LO needs to learn No. Its your home for goodness sake. And I would not be removing everything either.
Thing is, its no good you saying no if the parents aren't following the same consistency at home. What is this child like at home, how are the parents handling it etc? are they finding it all so cute, are they afraid of upsetting him.

I would say too, leave your home as is and keep doing what you are doing, a firm No and removal of the child. Perhaps drop something so it makes a clatter (gets the childs attention) or clap hands loudly and say No. Make sure your voice is calm but firm. When you remove the child, look at them and say no touch.

Its crucial that a child learns to listen, hear and understand what is being said - for their own safety (now and later on when they are slightly older), particuarly at this young exploratory age. Of course they are going to push (due to age and that exploratory impluse) but its up to you to set the boundaries and limits in your home.

I know its exhausting but hang on in there. One of my own children was a 'i-don't-believe-no-applies-to-me' child and I currently have a 3yr old mindee who is STILL like that.

saltire I think I have your mindee 2's twin but I have persevered today he hates being put in playpen but is having to get used to the idea.
He is 11 months old and screams in anger every time he does not get his own way he hits all the other children in the face nearly broke ds2's glasses yesterday, threw a wobbly over anything I said no to. He looks at you first to get a reaction but I am ensuring I am consistent with my boundaries. He screamed today because I laid him down in cot but I persevered for over ten minutes and eventually he fell asleep. Have warned my neighbours that he may be having few tantrums because I will not let him demolish my house because I feel very aware of the screaming but it my way or the highway from now on

I am definately getting a playpen. A day goes like this
mindee crawls to dvd player
I go and get him , say "no" and lift him out of the way
mindee crawls back to dvd player, stops,looks at me and presses the buttons. i get him say NO and lift out of the way
Back he goes again.repeat up to 10-15 times before he decided to go and pul the curtains down instead. Repeat the saying no and move, back he goes again, and again and again.

I can get nothing done with his brother, if I put him in highchair at table whilst we paint etc, he screams in temper and makes himself sick

Is furniture all that you have in your room to excite this mindee's very natural (and needed) exploratory impulse? If you curb the need to explore, you are putting this child off the idea of learning for life!

Do you have push button toys, shape sorters cardboard boxes, great lengths of fabric to wrap up in, stacking/falling toys, dangling streamers, treasure baskets full of natural materials? How are you occupying this child's prime learning years.

If I have offended- sorry.

Sorry again if I have offended but we are supposed to be providing stimulating environments. Yes I know you don't want your house to be a nursery - I have a family too.

im sure there are toys out but that she has had to move all her house hold things as child wants to reck them all

Saltire what about getting some BabyDan play pens and opening and fixing on the wall to make a safe play space so you can reclaim your dining table etc?