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Au Pair offering piano lessons - insurance etc

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Treeesa · 02/09/2010 13:35

Our current AP is a very talented pianist and has been teaching my children to play since she's been here.

She is keen to offer her abilities to other kids and I'm happy for her to exploit her talents but wanted some advice from anyone else who may offer music or other private tuition and is in the same position.

What insurance would she need to have if she was 1. Giving lessons in other people's homes or 2. (more importantly for me) What insurance would she need to offer the lessons in our house using our piano.

Does a piano teacher have to be CRB checked or not if offering private tuition in someone else's house? Is it the same as au pairs and nannys in that if they are invited to a domestic household by the family, then there is no CRB check needed. Do you just need a CRB check to advertise yourself as a piano teacher or do you not need to mention it at all.. (She only has her original police check from her own country when she first arrived).

Assume anything earned from these lessons she would need to declare too which might be a problem as she doesn't have a NI number etc sorted out yet. Her lessons would be self-employment I guess which I am not sure co-exists with her au pair status - anyone else had someone with both statuses before?

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karen2010 · 02/09/2010 17:50

i would suggest that you have no kids coming to your house for piano lessons as you your house insurance will go up
and there will loads of other stuff
so best leave well alone

if she want to give leason she should go to other homes or get in touch with a music school or local education authority

can she just not do for it friend of your kids and just do for dinner and expense so no declaring

if she want to teach grade and stuff she will have to get in contact with music examing body
not sure who that is

frakkinnakkered · 03/09/2010 13:02

She is best doing it on a self employed basis, which doesn't interfere with her employed-but-under-the-threshold (I assume) au pair earnings. IIRC you often take A2 nationals where secondary employment can be an issue. Self-employment, however, is fine. Doing it for an LEA or music school would mean employment, which may be problematic, depending on nationality. It's easy to be both employed and self-employed - several nannies on here do it as they have a regular job and take on night/temp work.

Good point that if she wants to enter children for exams she'll need to get in touch with one of the boards, probably ABRSM.

Most parents ask for the teacher to be CRB checked, which is why many freelancers have a CRB check from somewhere else, but it's not obligatory.

I wouldn't allow it to take place in your own home. She will want her own form of insurance and possibly to investigate joining a union. I was a member of the Musician's Union because my uni had an arragement with them which made it easy however they only insure you in your own home or a public place. The other option is the Incorporated Society of Musicians.

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