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changingsoon · 14/07/2010 09:37

hearing rumors eyfs is on its way out? anyone heard anything about this?

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Virus · 14/07/2010 09:44

No the EYFS is not on its way out, there may be changes made in September but it is not being abolished.

HSMM · 14/07/2010 09:45

it won't go until we've all really got used to it and have all our systems and processes in place ... Then they'll change it. That's what normally happens

underpaidandoverworked · 14/07/2010 11:17

HSMM, rofl - but sooo true!

looneytune · 14/07/2010 13:01

Very true. Got head round birth to three then it went - I was very p'd off!

thebody · 14/07/2010 13:16

I think its all up in the air.. wait to see what the cooalition government will cut... all these inspectors and eyfs coordinators on good salaries with cars may yet dissapear.. and I dont wish job cuts on anyone by the way.. I just think it will happen..

changingsoon · 14/07/2010 13:29

and network coordinators and people who come and check our kitchens and fridges grrrrrrrrrrrrr

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pippin26 · 14/07/2010 16:49

EYFS is being reviewed thats all, the previous government said it would be and this government is just doing the same. I can't see that they would abolish it altoghter although they are making noises about making sure its right for all providers to be delivering it. I might get hung drawn and quartered here (be nice to me lol) but I actually like EYFS as a framework. I agree that there are some things that should be tweaked here and there, I also think there should be more guidance as to what is expected of us so that we have something to work to given that Ofsted are so darned inconsistent with their evaluations of what we should be producing.
I like the fact that its placed minders on a level pegging playfield and recognised us as the professionals we are.

My guess is that this government will try to win people over with saying this that and the other and perhaps taking away the mandatory status for childminders, but then I do think that they might slap something else in place. thats just my uneducated guess though and I could be hugely wrong.

Even if they did abolish EYFS they will put something else in place and i wonder if it would be the better the devil you know. We have all taken this long to get into/used to it and x amount of millions have been poured into it already.

underpaidandoverworked · 14/07/2010 19:01

ssshhh, be careful what you say about Ofsted, Virus might be reading!!!

Seriously, now I have my head around it I've sussed out the 'shortcuts' to EYFS and do the bare minimum - obs and next steps are done in individual daily diaries. I also use 'trackers plus' from qed which are brill cos parents can contribute to them too.

TBH, I think cms provide more info for parents than other early years providers - my ds has just completed reception and in 2yrs of nursery and his reception yr, I haven't seen sight of an observation yet!!

pippin26 · 14/07/2010 19:21

Underpaid - lol to the Ofsted comment. Believe me I have plenty to say about them - mostly bad, a not many good things. But that is a separate thread altogether!

I'll second what you have said about the info in comparison to other providers. I have been collating and summarising a leaving mindees journal and the EY advisory teacher for the area is over the moon and has told me that I have gone over and above what 99% of other providers have produced and in much more detail. She has said its inspiring and to see if I can get parental permission to use it as an example (deleting out identifying details).

I must admit i was shocked when my sons nursery last year proudly presented his 'learning journal' - it was rather sparse and told me nothing about his learning journey!

And oh heck, I can't help myself - if Ofsted took their heads out of their own bottoms for 5 minutes they might just get their act together to actually know what the heck they are talking about and maybe, just maybe they would sound competent and consistent. There I have said it..... couldn't help myself! lol

underpaidandoverworked · 14/07/2010 19:46

you rebel you, lol !!!

My parents are bemused that I give them 'homework' when I send the trackers home.

Off to fill in paperwork for today....

RosieGirl · 14/07/2010 20:35

I also don't mind the EYFS, but hate the fact it seems much too structured and the amount that is expected of us childminders who work alone.

I am dreading September as I will have 4 children who will be at school/full time nursery. I am picking twins up from nursery school at 4pm (after dropping them off at 8.45am), I will have to get all the children in, sort them out, drinks ect then feed them a cooked dinner (major allergies so have to be extra careful) and will leave at 5.30pm. I don't understand why I have to do obs/planning for these little ones who have already been at school for 7 hours, their mum is a teacher and I won't be having them in the holidays.

1 of my schoolies will turn 5 in August, so will leave the EYFS in September, whereas one is 5 in November so I will be required to roll out the EYFS until she is nearly 6.

Many of us are incredibly poorly paid for what we do, many of us do it because we enjoy it, but many have left because of over regulation. I would love a more common sense approach, and for childminders to be treated seperately, as brilliant unique form of childcare. So much is based around large group care, even the dreaded self-assesment isn't really tailored to us.

A bit of de-regulation

RosieGirl · 14/07/2010 20:37

wouldn't go amiss.... ooopps end of day boob

underpaidandoverworked · 14/07/2010 21:15

Rosie, totally agree!!! Home based childcare shouldnt be about jumping through hoops, crossing 't's and dotting 'i's - it's about giving a child a home-from-home environment where they can learn and develop at their own pace, while doing normal everyday things like they would at home with mum and dad! None of this structured planning out every day to the hour, linking this to that, writing this and that down . Oops, best go beddiebyes before the need arises to get the sugar lumps out for my high horse!!

looneytune · 14/07/2010 21:24

I believe you should be able to opt in or out of it and let the parents choose. I know parents who are teachers who DO NOT want all this, it makes them really ANGRY yet even a letter from them to Ofsted isn't enough (how do you get around that one when you're supposed to have their permission to make obs in the first place! ) lol.

Oh, I can beat that Rosie. One of my mindees was born on............wait for it...........31st August!!! She is coming up for 6 (thank god!) A few times I've had a (joking) go at her mum saying 'couldn't you have had her 1 day earlier' - would have saved a years worth of extra work!!

Tanith · 15/07/2010 12:39

I don't bother with trackers and I definately don't send stuff home for parents to fill in, except an All About Me thingy right at the start.

I use emails quite informally for my parent input and stick the relevant ones in the learning journeys. OFSTED are happy with that - must be: I got an outstanding

octopusNanny · 21/07/2010 17:48

At my childcare college 1st year was birth to three 2nd year was EYFS - had to change all my coursework - nightmare!

Don't think they will remove it completely, not for say... another year?
May be revised soon though!

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